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Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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All these ID check laws are out of hand. Parents are expecting the government, and random websites, to raise their kids. Why would anyone trust some random blog with their ID? If these laws move forward (and I don’t think they should), there needs to be a way to authenticate as over 18 without sending picture of your ID off to random 3rd parties, or giving actual personal details. I don’t want to give this data, and…

Thinking about client vs server, wouldn't it be even less wide-ranging, less costly to enforce, and more appropriately targeted if such mandates are one-time and on the client side - only on device manufacturers and OEM-shipped OS? Suppose new mass market devices are defaulted to parental controls on, until unlocked by an adult at point-of-sale or afterwards through a form of validation? The KYC of who unlocked it could be anonymized or the PII-proving side of the log if it needs keeping could be on-device only (high bar for criminal investigations). There should be a clear exemption threshold for low volume indie products, build your own PC, and open source self-install like Linux - since the purpose is to protect ignorant/apathetic consumers.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

#373

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But that is US law, as of literally just this week! > "In fact, under the laws that the Supreme Court just upheld, prosecutors in Tennessee and South Dakota can even reach across state lines and prosecute writers on FELONY charges for a single paragraph of sexually-explicit writing on my site that they think "harmed" kids in their states, facing up to FIFTEEN years in prison, for failing to implement ID-checks on my…

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Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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Others have said this, I'm sure, but this will move past porn _quickly_. Once there is agreed-up age verification for pornography, much of the professional internet will require identity verification to do _anything_. This is one of the bigger nails in the coffin for the free internet, and this true whether or not you're happy with all the pornography out there.

And honestly, with the advent of AI spam everywhere, I'd be quite happy to visit a version of the internet where everyone is a certified real person

be careful what you ask for.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

#375

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The slippery slope from here to banning under 18s looking at websites discussing suicidal thoughts, transgender issues, homosexually and onto anything some group of middle age mothers decide isn't appropriate seems dangerously anti-fallacitical.

While I completely understand the slippery slope concept, we ban all kinds of things for under 18s based on morals. Why couldn't these be any different? How else does a society decide as a whole what they are for or against. Obviously, there should be limits.

The question is always “whose morals”. I think society as a whole is in agreement that minors are better off without access to pornography, for example. But the arrangement OP is outlining is one where a minority are able to force their morality on a broader population that doesn’t agree with it.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

#377

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You have it backwards, Pornhub preemptively blocked access based on geolocation before the bills even passed.

So Pornhub hates money and traffic? Of course not. Pornhub blocked these IP because they knew it was going to be (and is now) illegal in those states, at least at its current form. I see it no different from said states banning Pornhub.

Pornhub did it in protest[1], hope this helps.

[1] https://www.abc4.com/news/tech-social-media/pornhub-blocks-a...

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

#378

> conservative Christians are trying to eliminate ALL sexually-related speech online I don’t really appreciate this framing. Despite being a very conservative Christian (at least in many ways, if not others) I don’t approve of or agree with the scope of SCOTUS’ current ruling, nor do I approve of all the age- verification laws as written. It seems futile to attempt to make everybody everywhere do this and create a lo…

> I don’t really appreciate this framing.

The framing is objectively accurate. Perhaps you should reconsider the group you identify with.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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> These people will never actually ban pornography Not sure how one can say that with a straight face when there are US states that literally block pornhub, but okay. > If this was actually about porn on the internet, they'd be demanding Playboy get shut down, or PornHub. They're not ...

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