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Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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Is "this was restricted for centuries" a moral rule of thumb you use consistently? What's your opinion about gay rights, woman's suffrage?

I’m a liberal. I generally agree with the principle, not the premise.

My point again is that these “rights” you’re talking about are built on our social contract. There is no premise that “porn is free speech,” in fact, quite the opposite, again, for centuries.

The existence of porn on the internet was the result of legislation, not right. That legislation is changing, we need to organize to make sure it remains legal.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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All these ID check laws are out of hand. Parents are expecting the government, and random websites, to raise their kids. Why would anyone trust some random blog with their ID? If these laws move forward (and I don’t think they should), there needs to be a way to authenticate as over 18 without sending picture of your ID off to random 3rd parties, or giving actual personal details. I don’t want to give this data, and…

The slippery slope from here to banning under 18s looking at websites discussing suicidal thoughts, transgender issues, homosexually and onto anything some group of middle age mothers decide isn't appropriate seems dangerously anti-fallacitical.

While I completely understand the slippery slope concept, we ban all kinds of things for under 18s based on morals. Why couldn't these be any different? How else does a society decide as a whole what they are for or against. Obviously, there should be limits.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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"Party of free speech," my ass.

Neither of the two parties is very much in favor of free speech. The left has cancel culture and policing pronouns while the right has blocking books with gay characters and age verification laws.

The left was kinda annoying about it but nobody was going to throw you in jail for misgendering someone or whatever.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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All these ID check laws are out of hand. Parents are expecting the government, and random websites, to raise their kids. Why would anyone trust some random blog with their ID? If these laws move forward (and I don’t think they should), there needs to be a way to authenticate as over 18 without sending picture of your ID off to random 3rd parties, or giving actual personal details. I don’t want to give this data, and…

This goes against the very ethos of the early web. We should not be normalizing any form of this extreme moral overreach.

Its also to little, to late- the smut is in the LLMs now and they can generate whatever the user wants - locally. So good luck censoring that.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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I'm genuinely curious. The parent buys the phone/laptop. And when little Timmy logs in to his phone the account should be in a family/group as a child account.

What's with the obsession with actually verifying identity? Just make a web API available to determine if the current user is configured as a child account. Why isn't that enough to gate-keep access to adult content?

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They wont allow minors to take out porn. Simply, they wont and it would be illegal for them.

What public libraries have porn? Or is it the pearl clutching where a novel with a same-sex kiss is smut? What about all of the graphic acts that happen in the Bible?

10 year old me definitely checked out the Clan of the Cavebear books and similar from my local library, no one cared.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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> conservative Christians are trying to eliminate ALL sexually-related speech online I don’t really appreciate this framing. Despite being a very conservative Christian (at least in many ways, if not others) I don’t approve of or agree with the scope of SCOTUS’ current ruling, nor do I approve of all the age- verification laws as written. It seems futile to attempt to make everybody everywhere do this and create a lo…

Alright, you seem receptive to arguments so I'll take a crack at this. > I don’t approve of or agree with the scope of SCOTUS’ current ruling, nor do I approve of all the age- verification laws as written. It seems futile to attempt to make everybody everywhere do this and create a locked-down “second internet” for minors. That's not the intent. The intent from the get-go has been to "Baptise" the internet as "God's…

People need to touch grass instead of blaming everyone else for their failure to do so haha.
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