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Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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I am on the fence with these topics because I have years of fear drilled into me. These topics are a taboo and I have rarely ever tried anything at all. The experiences did not ruin me, they made me more curious about my brain in a positive way. But the social taboo lingers. What surprises me the most is that we have accepted sugar, alcohol, cigarettes and a ton of mass manufactured food which are harming us. I am st…

As a similar "Boy Scout" of sorts, the fear is/was real. I didn’t experiment with so much as nicotine or alcohol until I’d tried “stuff” with the supervision of an experienced "sitter"; I ended up having some of the best times of my life in the safety and context of home and friendships. Combined with my own life experiences with drug abuse and addictions, I was able to build a healthy relationship with those substan…

> I ended up having some of the best times of my life in the safety and context of home and friendships.

> However, my personal moral compass prevents me from using substances outside of a legally permissible setting, at least at present - and that's something I'm fine with.

What on Earth do laws have to do with morals?

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Ok, where is this psychedelic community found? I must sample their handles for videogame character names.

There are some decent communities in Discord, for both research oriented but also hobby oriented communities of psychedelics.

I can’t imagine discussing use and possession of Schedule 1 substances on a non-e2ee, logged-in-cleartext-forever platform.

You’re opening yourself up to blackmail by hundreds of different parties.

It is blatantly irresponsible to host such communities on Discord. Possession and use are federal felonies.

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Last year I underwent treatments for my treatment-resistant major depression using Ketamine. It was a clinical setting, where you'd get wired up to blood pressure, pulse-ox, and other monitors while you were monitored by an RN via video camera. This was IV Ketamine, so not the inhalants that are available now. According to the clinic, the inhalants (which they also offered) are also generally less effective than IV,…

> being able to "shut it off" was a good thing - you can turn an IV off, but once you inhale, you're on your own How does it work? Is the half-life of it shorter when administered IV?

Only a little. Not enough to serve as an escape hatch. It depends on the infusion rate, of course, but you’re talking a difference of maybe 15-20 minutes.

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We need to push to make this stuff legal. I wouldn't go so far as to say lets sell it OTC vape pens at gas stations but a middle ground where you can go to a doctor to have this treatment performed. I personally have never taken DMT though from everything I've read and heard on podcasts it's not something to be taken lightly. I think having a sort of "DMT Clinic" that you can go to would be the best middle ground of…

Last year I underwent treatments for my treatment-resistant major depression using Ketamine. It was a clinical setting, where you'd get wired up to blood pressure, pulse-ox, and other monitors while you were monitored by an RN via video camera. This was IV Ketamine, so not the inhalants that are available now. According to the clinic, the inhalants (which they also offered) are also generally less effective than IV,…

Fun fact: the cost of the ketamine in that $2000 treatment is about $1. Even factoring in trained staff to monitor, you’re up to a few hundred bucks for the hour. It’s mostly just the failings of the US medical establishment, and, of course, arbitrarily constrained supply that results in gouging.

Just go buy $100 in street ketamine (still marked up 100x, fwiw, also because laws) from someone reputable, test it for fentanyl, and blow lines of it. Same deal, $1900 less cost. Breaking some dumb rules is far preferable to living with untreated depression.

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Yes, it’s your bubble. There are American states still charging people over marijuana. Having grown up Christian I personally know people in their 30s who view psychedelic and heroin users similarly. Those people would have the opposite view of you. Years back, my friend’s parents asked me to stage an intervention for him after they found out he regularly took LSD. He was 19 at the time.

Growing up my friend’s dad was a conservative christian and a frequent caller into conservative talk radio shows. There was a state referendum to legalize marijuana, so I asked what he thought. “Of course it should be legal. It says right there in Genesis—God said: I give you every herb bearing seed upon the Earth. What could be more clear-cut than that?”

hmm so.. "I give you every herb bearing seed upon the Earth" is followed by "to eat/stuff into nose"?

with this stupidity, maybe you should try eating list of 20 deadly plants and see how it goes?

"ownership" means "edible/nose-able"... maybe you should try eating your car?

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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I have never used hallucinogens but know people who have and one of them suffers from Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder which causes visual snow or noise in his vision. It is a bit like visual tinnitus and he says it greatly reduces his quality of life. Wikipedia has a animation of what it looks like

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_percep...

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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Growing up my friend’s dad was a conservative christian and a frequent caller into conservative talk radio shows. There was a state referendum to legalize marijuana, so I asked what he thought. “Of course it should be legal. It says right there in Genesis—God said: I give you every herb bearing seed upon the Earth. What could be more clear-cut than that?”

hmm so.. "I give you every herb bearing seed upon the Earth" is followed by "to eat/stuff into nose"? with this stupidity, maybe you should try eating list of 20 deadly plants and see how it goes? "ownership" means "edible/nose-able"... maybe you should try eating your car?

Been a while since I've read Genesis but I don't recall God putting any terms and conditions on it

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Growing up my friend’s dad was a conservative christian and a frequent caller into conservative talk radio shows. There was a state referendum to legalize marijuana, so I asked what he thought. “Of course it should be legal. It says right there in Genesis—God said: I give you every herb bearing seed upon the Earth. What could be more clear-cut than that?”

hmm so.. "I give you every herb bearing seed upon the Earth" is followed by "to eat/stuff into nose"? with this stupidity, maybe you should try eating list of 20 deadly plants and see how it goes? "ownership" means "edible/nose-able"... maybe you should try eating your car?

> hmm so.. "I give you every herb bearing seed upon the Earth" is followed by "to eat/stuff into nose"?

It's not always the best use, but that's definitely allowed. It's one of the main uses of herbs.

> with this stupidity, maybe you should try eating list of 20 deadly plants and see how it goes?

If you're eating an amount that doesn't hurt anyone, what's the problem?

And the reason to possibly intervene would be someone stockpiling dangerous amounts. Not for enjoying plants wrong.

> maybe you should try eating your car?

It would be ridiculous to make that illegal, wouldn't it?

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