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AWS Free Tier Changes on July 15, 2025

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Re: AWS Free Tier Changes on July 15, 2025

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Post by vasco »

gkbrk wrote: post #20
vasco wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they'll say their favorite line which is that it can be very disruptive to customers for them to stop the spend, how could they possibly know what to stop in your account?? Always easy to find reasons to explain something when the result is more money for you.

Once they need to stop your spending, the following has to happen - VMs deleted, along with all the files on them - S3 buckets emptied - DNS queries no longer getting answered - Databases dropped, backups deleted This is not just something disruptive that can be fixed by spending money again. Even if you stop customer traffic, all these resources are still used and cost money. For a professional account this is insan…

I did call it didn't I?

Re: AWS Free Tier Changes on July 15, 2025

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Post by Shorel »

gkbrk wrote: post #20
vasco wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they'll say their favorite line which is that it can be very disruptive to customers for them to stop the spend, how could they possibly know what to stop in your account?? Always easy to find reasons to explain something when the result is more money for you.

Once they need to stop your spending, the following has to happen - VMs deleted, along with all the files on them - S3 buckets emptied - DNS queries no longer getting answered - Databases dropped, backups deleted This is not just something disruptive that can be fixed by spending money again. Even if you stop customer traffic, all these resources are still used and cost money. For a professional account this is insan…

Yes, and I want all of this to happen automatically.

Last time, I had to spent a few hours deleting all the resources one by one, and then double check to be sure nothing was missing.

Re: AWS Free Tier Changes on July 15, 2025

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Post by tonyhart7 »

wiether wrote: post #13

When I saw an official "Free Plan" that is automatically deleted after six months, I thought that was a good move: now students could open an account, experiment for absolutely free for six months without the fear of unplanned costs being charged on their credit card, either when experimenting or months/years later because they forgot about their account and some hacker managed to get access to it. But according to t…

"Why do I need to provide payment method to sign up if I’m on the free plan?"

its also to prevent abuse, from people making a mass account only abusing free tier

Re: AWS Free Tier Changes on July 15, 2025

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Post by trvz »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #22

I have a terraformed 4 node kubernetes cluster with 6GB RAM each running on the oracle cloud free tier. I don‘t know why people bother with any other cloud if they are free tier level hobbyists.

As another advocate for Oracle Cloud, I think people primarily aren't aware of it, and if they are they are put off by Oracle's reputation, even though Oracle Cloud is no worse than AWS/GC/Azure.

Re: AWS Free Tier Changes on July 15, 2025

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Post by floating-io »

trvz wrote: post #34
Traubenfuchs wrote: post #22

I have a terraformed 4 node kubernetes cluster with 6GB RAM each running on the oracle cloud free tier. I don‘t know why people bother with any other cloud if they are free tier level hobbyists.

As another advocate for Oracle Cloud, I think people primarily aren't aware of it, and if they are they are put off by Oracle's reputation, even though Oracle Cloud is no worse than AWS/GC/Azure.

Signing up for services with a notoriously complex pricing structure, under the auspices of a company that is infamous for auditing its customers and forcing more money out of them on the basis of technicalities under threat of legal action, seems... unwise... to me.

Re: AWS Free Tier Changes on July 15, 2025

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Post by mnahkies »

IshKebab wrote: post #25
lazystar wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is the GCP free tier in the room with us now? in all seriousness, would love a link.

Not many people know this, but Google also makes a search engine! https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/free-cloud-features#compu...

Really wish that GCP had a AWS lightsail equivalent offering. I'd happily make use of services like GCS and PubSub for my personal projects if they did, but I can't justify the GCE cost

Re: AWS Free Tier Changes on July 15, 2025

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Post by the8472 »

gkbrk wrote: post #20
vasco wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they'll say their favorite line which is that it can be very disruptive to customers for them to stop the spend, how could they possibly know what to stop in your account?? Always easy to find reasons to explain something when the result is more money for you.

Once they need to stop your spending, the following has to happen - VMs deleted, along with all the files on them - S3 buckets emptied - DNS queries no longer getting answered - Databases dropped, backups deleted This is not just something disruptive that can be fixed by spending money again. Even if you stop customer traffic, all these resources are still used and cost money. For a professional account this is insan…

> For a professional account this is insane.

At $work there are plenty accounts where this would be acceptable. Annoying perhaps, but nothing that couldn't be recovered in a day would be lost. Reliable cost caps would be especially useful when running stuff with admin permissions and the dependencies don't have airtight supply chain security.

Re: AWS Free Tier Changes on July 15, 2025

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Post by spwa4 »

floating-io wrote: post #36
trvz wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As another advocate for Oracle Cloud, I think people primarily aren't aware of it, and if they are they are put off by Oracle's reputation, even though Oracle Cloud is no worse than AWS/GC/Azure.

Signing up for services with a notoriously complex pricing structure, under the auspices of a company that is infamous for auditing its customers and forcing more money out of them on the basis of technicalities under threat of legal action, seems... unwise... to me.

> notoriously complex pricing structure

You mean AWS?

(an AWS bill has about 10 pages of items you get charged for, with only 3 line items explained what they are, and even then, not why you get charged. GCP is better, but not by much (let's call it about 4 pages), and Azure is again better, but also not really (2 pages). AND they're all at least 10x as expensive as colo or dedicated hosting. Yes, 10x. People will deny that, and then you look at charges for data traffic, and conclude that if you use a lot of data traffic, it'll quickly start being more than 10x more expensive. And even cheap dedicated is only cheaper than a box in the corner of your closet for 6 months, maybe a year)

Re: AWS Free Tier Changes on July 15, 2025

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Post by dizhn »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #22

I have a terraformed 4 node kubernetes cluster with 6GB RAM each running on the oracle cloud free tier. I don‘t know why people bother with any other cloud if they are free tier level hobbyists.

It's known to be pretty sketchy in terms of who can actually get it. Their new user procedure is a super slow web app that refuses to create a user for opaque reasons, the most reliable of which seemingly being your location. In other words, a lot of people who want it cannot get it.
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