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Not Windsurf… OpenAI. And OpenAI cares because they’re competing (in part) against Copilot, so if Msoft gets all the benefits of Windsurf then OpenAI would effectively be paying 3B to feed their competitor.
Does that ip deal expire at some point?
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What was Garry's post?
https://x.com/garrytan/status/1941553682736439307 The thesis is that once you’re paying $200 a month, you’re beholden and won’t pay and compare it with anything else.
Good thing for consumers who use AI coding tools is that there is no lock-in like in Photoshop or similar software where you hone your skills for years to use particular tool. Switching from Cursor to any other platform would literally take 10 minutes.
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Is there a cheap version for hobbyists? Or what’s the best thing for hobbyists to use, just cut and paste?
I've been enjoying Zed lately
It is also BYOA or you can buy a subscription from Zed themselves and help them out. I currently use it with my free Copilot+ subscription (GitHub hands it out to pretty much any free/open source dev).
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>Cursor just committed mass consumer fraud at worst, and at best pissed off all their best customers. What happened?
flip-flopping on pricing has led users to feel nickel-and-dimed i like cursor fine, but check out the forum/subreddit to see people talking like addicts, pissed their fix is getting more expensive i think this aggressive reaction is more pronounced for non-programmers who are making things for the first time. they tasted a new power and they don't want it taken away.
I'm not an extreme user of Cursor. It has become an essential part of my workflow, but I also probably on the lower/medium section of users. I know that a lot of my friends were spending $XXX amounts/month on extra usage with them, while I've never gone beyond 50% included premium credits usage.
After their changes I'm getting hit with throttling multiple times a day, which likely means that the same thing happens to almost every Cursor user. So that means one or more of:
- They are jacking up the prices, to squeeze out more profit, so it looks good in the VC game
- They had to jack up the prices, so that they aren't running at a loss anymore (that would be a bad indicator regarding profitability for the whole field)
- They are really incompetent about simulating/estimating the impact of their pricing decisions, which also isn't a good future indicator for their customers
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> It’s so good that I complete the work of weeks and months within days and yet you're pulling 14 hour workdays..
Well you can't risk Claude quitting overnight. It forgets everything it did the day before and now you have to start over ... must ... finish ... tonight ... within ... context ... window.
(Prompt caches are another thing; leaving it for the night and resuming the next day will cost you a little extra on resume, if you're using models via API pay-as-you-go billing.)
OpenAI needs to up their game on Codex to be on par with Claude Code. o3 is a better planner relative to Opus.
Where do you think Codex lags behind Claude Code?
UI is also worse compared to Claude.
They still have some work to do if they want to compete with Claude TBH.
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I'm curious to see what you've built with all that extra productivity.
No one ever shares their great and shipped products. AI built slop is for generating hype not revenue or users.
AI is often used to pump out sites and apps that scam users, SEO spam, etc. So there is definitely a revenue stream that makes scammers and grifters excited for AI. These tools have increased the scope and reach of their scams, and provide a huge boost to their productivity.
That's partly why I'm curious about OP's work. Nobody who's using these tools while following best software engineering practices would claim that they're making them that much more productive. Reviewing the generated code and fixing issues counteracts whatever time is saved by generating code. But if they're vibe coding and don't even look at the code...
Funny to see this today. I'm a rank and file dev at a non-big tech company and I got a call from a Windsurf sales rep this week who I had connected with on LinkedIn the day before (I never gave them my number). They told me my company was in talks with Windsurf about a licensing deal but that they would give me a 30 day trial of an enterprise account for use on personal projects to let me try it in advance. I guess t…
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Yes, my CC usage is regularly $50-$100 per day , so their Max plan is absolutely great value that I don’t expect to last.
Can you give me an idea of how much interaction would be $50-$100 per day? Like are you pretty constantly in a back and forth with CC? And if you wouldn’t mind, any chance you can give me an idea of productivity gains pre/post LLM?
i found opus is significantly more capable in coding than sonnet, especcially for the task that is poorly defined, thinking mode can fulfill alot of missing detail and you just need to edit a little before let it code.
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Some excellent points. On “add selection to chat”, I just want to add that the Claude Code VS code extension automatically passes the current selection to the model. :) I am genuinely curious if any Cursor or Windsurf users who have also tried Claude Code could speak to why they prefer the IDE-fork tools? I’ve only ever used Claude Code myself - what am I missing?
Cursor's tab completion model is legitimately fantastic and for many people is worth the entire $20 subscription. Lint fixes or syntax-level refactors are guessed and executed instantly with TAB with close to 100% accuracy. This is their final moat IMO, if Copilot manages to bring their tab completion up to near parity, very little reason to use Cursor.