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OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Even the original Silicon Valley didn’t match the zaniness of real life. Why do we need a reboot? Just check HN!

My favorite thing about that series was watching it with friends who weren't from the Bay Area. Often they'd be laughing at the sheer absurdity of a situation, and I'd get to point out that it was barely exaggerated from real life.

My wife refuses to watch it because it hit too close to home.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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post #163

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> Anthropic just came out and yolo'd the context window because they could afford to I don’t think this is true at all. The reason CC is so good is that they’re very deliberate about what goes in the context. CC often spends ages reading 5 LOC snippets, but afterwards it only has relevant stuff in context.

Background of how it works: https://kirshatrov.com/posts/claude-code-internals Prompt: https://gist.github.com/transitive-bullshit/487c9cb52c75a970...

Also check out claude-trace, which injects fetch hooks to get at the data: https://github.com/badlogic/lemmy/tree/main/apps/claude-trac...

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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So Google, Meta, and Microsoft will just hollow out the best AI startups of their talent instead of buying them - out of fear of monopoly lawsuits I'm assuming? Nice plan I guess. Kind of obvious to spot though.

Can shareholders sue? I presume the only avenue is IP since that belongs to the company? Or the non-exclusive license somehow negates that? Brutal.

“We underpaid you relative to what price you were able to command on the market, and you left, how DARE you!”

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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post #183

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Yes, my CC usage is regularly $50-$100 per day , so their Max plan is absolutely great value that I don’t expect to last.

Pretty easy to hit $100 an hour using Opus on API credits. The model providers are heavily subsidized, the datacenters appear to be too. If you look at the Coreweave stuff and the private datacenters it starts looking like the telecom bubble. Even Meta is looking to finance datacenter expansion - https://www.reuters.com/business/meta-seeks-29-billion-priva... The reason they are talking about building new nuclear pow…

Why “no capitalism required”? Competition of this kind is only possible with capitalism.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Is Lina Khan to blame for this new acquihire meta? She was very aggressive in blocking any tech acquisition during her time and ever since we have seen more and more acquihires which I believe these companies are using to prevent themselves from getting sued.

Google is having a hard time acquiring Wiz for 32b, and if it's blocked they owe 3.2b to Wiz. So why risk it when you can just spend the money to hire the talent behind it and spend a few month building out a new product.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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I went from Emacs to VS Code, then to Cursor, next to Claude Code, which is so good that I feel like I am having half a dozen junior devs at my fingertips, 24/7. Since Claude Code is cli based, I reviewed my cli toolset: Migrated from iTerm2 to Ghostty and Tmux, from Cursor to NeoVim (my God is it good!). Just had a 14h workday with this tooling. It’s so good that I complete the work of weeks and months within days!…

Curious - how did moving from iTerm2 to Ghostty help? I currently use iTerm2 and have never used Claude Code

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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post #338

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I am curious what kind of code development you are doing with so many subscriptions? Are you doing front end backend full stack or model development itself? Are you destilling models for training your own? I have never heard someone using so much subscription? Is this for your full time job or startup? Why not use qwen or deep seek and host it yourself? I am impressed with what you are doing.

I’m a founder/CTO of an enterprise SaaS, and I code everything from data modeling, to algos, backend integrations, frontend architecture, UI widgets, etc. All in TypeScript, which is perfectly suited to LLMs because we can fit the types and repo map into context without loading all code. As to “why”: I’ve been coding for 25 years, and LLMs is the first technology that has a non-linear impact on my output. It’s simult…

> If someone forced me to stop using LLMs in my production process, I’d quit on the spot.

Yup 100% agree. I’d rather try to convince them of the benefits than go back to what feels like an unnecessarily inefficient process of writing all code by hand again.

And I’ve got 25+ years of solid coding experience. Never going back.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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post #235

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If you believe AGI is around the corner, doesn’t it mean it’ll replace ALL products?

That would be true if the product was the goal. In my experience, marketing > market > product Even with AGI in hand, there will still be competition between offerings based on externalities, inertia, or battle-testedness, or authority. Maybe super-intelligence would change the calculus of that, but you'd still probably find opportunities beyond just letting your pool of agents vibe code it.

Sounds like the kind of thing Windsurf & Cursor had as their most valuable asset - mindshare and authority?

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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post #56

IMO other than the Microsoft IP issue, I think the biggest thing that has shifted since this acquisition was first in the works is Claude Code has absolutely exploded. Forking an IDE and all the expense that comes with that feels like a waste of effort, considering the number of free/open source CLI agentic tools that are out there. Let's review the current state of things: - Terminal CLI agents are several orders of…

I never understood why those tools need to fork Visual Studio Code. Wouldn't an extension suffice?

> Wouldn't an extension suffice?

Not if you want custom UI. There are a lot of things you can do in extension land (continue, cline, roocode, kilocode, etc. are good examples) but there are some things you can't.

One thing I would have thought would be really cool to try is to integrate it at the LSP level, and use all that good stuff, but apparently people trying (I think there was a company from .il trying) either went closed or didn't release anything note worthy...

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