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Re: Zorin OS

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Post by lproven »

qn9n wrote: post #196
lproven wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> just have to know exactly what I'm looking for And how do you acquire that knowledge? Browsing. Looking and reading, and remembering. Mac OS X had no mechanism for this, but iOS does. iOS's Springboard launcher is lifted directly from the Dashboard in OS X "Tiger". Apple simplified it for the phone to only show apps. Then later they grafted it back in its simplified phone form -- Dashboard having been removed in th…

Realistically you shouldn't need thousands of applications so remembering the names of the 20 or so apps I use isn't a big deal.

Good for you.

I've been doing tech support since 1988. I've seen many many PCs with hundreds of apps, some maybe heading into thousands, sometimes with custom hackery to get different versions running in parallel and stuff.

Yes this is a thing. It is common.

And the typical user does not know what an "app" is, or what OS they are using. I've lost count of the number of people that told me their computer was running Word or Office (not Windows), or who think they access the Web via Google because they don't know what a web browser is.

Here is some proof, in case you don't believe me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ

If you can name the 20 apps you use the most often, you are the elite of the elite, the top 1% of 1% of computer users.

Normal people are not like that. They don't know what they use or what it's called or what OS they run or what an "OS" is, and they outnumber us by approximately a million to one.

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by jzemeocala »

about a decade ago Zorin OS got me into Linux.....Highly recommend it to any windows users that are tired of the nonsense.

nowadays I am a happy and competent debian user

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by t_mann »

jeroenhd wrote: post #124
t_mann wrote: post #70

This looks like my favorite for installing on relative's PCs before the Windows 10 sunset - I'm just a bit worried about Dual Boot, I've heard some stories about hiccups there. Does anyone have comments about how Dual Boot works with Zorin today, or general experience with that use case?

For what it's worth, Windows 10 will sunset in two years. You can pay $30/year for security updates (or get updates for free by enabling Windows Backup or spending Microsoft Reward Points you earn by using Bing) and keep using Windows 10 until programs stop working, which will probably take a while with the current status. My advice on dual booting Linux in general: 1. Resize the partition from Windows if you're goin…

Great tips, especially the recovery keys. I wouldn't have thought of that, thank you. One question, some distros like Pop OS offer drive encryption as part of the installation process. Do you know whether that would affect the whole disk (and hence could replace Bitlocker) or only the partition it lives on?

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by nylonstrung »

flkiwi wrote: post #127
qn9n wrote: post #121

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Windows is like 80? For the average user the average cost of supporting windows is basically 80. You can get windows laptops for $100–$500 just get one of those and put Linux on it? Not a single person's grandmother (except maybe that one that plays Skyrim) needs a $1400 laptop, total waste of resources.

My kid has an excellent Thinkpad I picked up for something like $500. Runs linux (NixOS, specifically) perfectly well. Even the fingerprint reader works! And if he spills something on it, replacing it is substantially less awful.

NixOS is honestly the most kid proof system imaginable

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by qn9n »

adithyassekhar wrote: post #194
qn9n wrote: post #177

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I believe, given their target audience, it doesn’t matter. The information is available for those who care, but for the non-technical user who is fed up with their current OS, the message is: “Feel at home on ZorinOS and experience a performance and security boost.” They understand that technically-oriented people will research the OS and its underlying components, but their target audience isn’t technical. Therefore…

Non technical audience won't be visiting a Linux distro website.

They will if they are sick of ads showing up in Windows or they heard there more tech focused friend talking about the benefits and decided to do some research.

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by qn9n »

lproven wrote: post #201
qn9n wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Realistically you shouldn't need thousands of applications so remembering the names of the 20 or so apps I use isn't a big deal.

Good for you. I've been doing tech support since 1988. I've seen many many PCs with hundreds of apps, some maybe heading into thousands, sometimes with custom hackery to get different versions running in parallel and stuff. Yes this is a thing. It is common. And the typical user does not know what an "app" is, or what OS they are using. I've lost count of the number of people that told me their computer was running W…

I used to work tech support as well... For this case if I was on a user machine and needed to browse for apps I would open Finder.app and navigate to /Applications, this is what I did even with Launchpad existing because it's more convenient to navigate and search as it's just a standard window instead of some full screen thing. This would mean I could continue reading documentation alongside the finder window.

> sometimes with custom hackery to get different versions running in parallel and stuff.

Most users just aren't doing this, they open up their Mac, install a few applications and then just use it as intended; they don't need to customise things and wouldn't care to spend the time even if it benefited them. If they are capable of implementing these custom hacks and things they are likely intelligent enough to navigate via Finder and Spotlight for almost all use cases.

> If you can name the 20 apps you use the most often, you are the elite of the elite, the top 1% of 1% of computer users.

I don't think so, most people I know whether that's friends or colleagues (some technical, some not) use maybe 3–5 apps:

Browser Word Processer Spreadsheets Notes Task Management (reminders, asana, jira or something) Music Player (some just use the browser)

people don't have 20+ applications to remember day in day out.

Hell even as a power user I only really use:

Terminal Browser IDE Creative Tools (Logic, Final Cut, Compressor, etc.) Notes Reminders Music Player

Re: Zorin OS

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Post by lproven »

qn9n wrote: post #207
lproven wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good for you. I've been doing tech support since 1988. I've seen many many PCs with hundreds of apps, some maybe heading into thousands, sometimes with custom hackery to get different versions running in parallel and stuff. Yes this is a thing. It is common. And the typical user does not know what an "app" is, or what OS they are using. I've lost count of the number of people that told me their computer was running W…

I used to work tech support as well... For this case if I was on a user machine and needed to browse for apps I would open Finder.app and navigate to /Applications, this is what I did even with Launchpad existing because it's more convenient to navigate and search as it's just a standard window instead of some full screen thing. This would mean I could continue reading documentation alongside the finder window. > som…

It seems to me that your answer is really spelling out my point, illustrated with examples.

It says:

* "I'm a terminal user"

* "I am a programmer"

(Which means, "I am therefore more technical than 99.9% of people"

* "I use an OS carefully handcrafted to make the file manager an acceptable app browser"

(Because what you describe is impossible on any form of Windows or non-Apple Unix)

* "I use a sophisticated tool which can find things both by name and by description"

You are not arguing my point; you are in fact reinforcing it.

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