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OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by rhodysurf »

libraryofbabel wrote: post #71
extr wrote: post #56

IMO other than the Microsoft IP issue, I think the biggest thing that has shifted since this acquisition was first in the works is Claude Code has absolutely exploded. Forking an IDE and all the expense that comes with that feels like a waste of effort, considering the number of free/open source CLI agentic tools that are out there. Let's review the current state of things: - Terminal CLI agents are several orders of…

Some excellent points. On “add selection to chat”, I just want to add that the Claude Code VS code extension automatically passes the current selection to the model. :) I am genuinely curious if any Cursor or Windsurf users who have also tried Claude Code could speak to why they prefer the IDE-fork tools? I’ve only ever used Claude Code myself - what am I missing?

It already does this btw, when you use Cc from the vscode terminal and select things it adds it to cc context automatically

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by break_the_bank »

sunaookami wrote: post #45
asdev wrote: post #30

I never knew anyone who used Windsurf. These AI acquisitions have been unbelievable(in a bad way). WIX acquired some garbage Lovable.dev clone for 80 million. I think many of us are waiting for this bubble to pop(economy will likely pop too)

It was barely better than Cursor and they got shafted by Anthropic because of the takeover announcement so nobody really used it anymore because let's face it - Claude Sonnet is just the best coding model. Design-wise the chat panel and autocomplete integration was a bit nicer than in Cursor but not by much. Subscription for Windsurf was/is also 5$ cheaper.

i don't think it was better than or comparable to cursor at all. except for the month prior to the OpenAI Acquisition news where some minor influencers on X were calling it better.

if it was better it would have survived.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by extr »

wagwang wrote: post #72
extr wrote: post #56

IMO other than the Microsoft IP issue, I think the biggest thing that has shifted since this acquisition was first in the works is Claude Code has absolutely exploded. Forking an IDE and all the expense that comes with that feels like a waste of effort, considering the number of free/open source CLI agentic tools that are out there. Let's review the current state of things: - Terminal CLI agents are several orders of…

As far as I can tell, terminal agents are inferior to hosted agents in sandboxed/imaged environments when it comes to concurrent execution and far inferior to assisted ide in terms of UX so what exactly is the point?. The "UI niceties" is the whole point of using cursor and somehow, everyone else sucks at it.

Not sure what you mean. "Hosted agents in sandboxed/imaged environments"? The entire selling point of CC is that you can do

- > curl -fsSL http://claude.ai/install.sh | bash

- > claude

- > OAuth to your Anthropic account

Done. Now you have a SOTA agentic AI with pretty forgiving usage limits up and running immediately. This is why it's capturing developer mindshare. The simplicity of getting up and going with it is a selling point.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by efitz »

alanmoraes wrote: post #61
extr wrote: post #56

IMO other than the Microsoft IP issue, I think the biggest thing that has shifted since this acquisition was first in the works is Claude Code has absolutely exploded. Forking an IDE and all the expense that comes with that feels like a waste of effort, considering the number of free/open source CLI agentic tools that are out there. Let's review the current state of things: - Terminal CLI agents are several orders of…

I never understood why those tools need to fork Visual Studio Code. Wouldn't an extension suffice?

Cline and Roo Code (my favorite Cline fork) are fantastic and run as normal VS Code extensions.

Occasionally they lose their connection to the terminal in VSCode, but I’ve got no other integration complaints.

And I really prefer the bring-your-own-key model as opposed to letting the IDE be my middleman.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by extr »

libraryofbabel wrote: post #71
extr wrote: post #56

IMO other than the Microsoft IP issue, I think the biggest thing that has shifted since this acquisition was first in the works is Claude Code has absolutely exploded. Forking an IDE and all the expense that comes with that feels like a waste of effort, considering the number of free/open source CLI agentic tools that are out there. Let's review the current state of things: - Terminal CLI agents are several orders of…

Some excellent points. On “add selection to chat”, I just want to add that the Claude Code VS code extension automatically passes the current selection to the model. :) I am genuinely curious if any Cursor or Windsurf users who have also tried Claude Code could speak to why they prefer the IDE-fork tools? I’ve only ever used Claude Code myself - what am I missing?

Cursor's tab completion model is legitimately fantastic and for many people is worth the entire $20 subscription. Lint fixes or syntax-level refactors are guessed and executed instantly with TAB with close to 100% accuracy. This is their final moat IMO, if Copilot manages to bring their tab completion up to near parity, very little reason to use Cursor.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by modeless »

layer8 wrote: post #50

According to The Information, Microsoft gaining access to Windsurf’s IP if OpenAI acquired them was a factor: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-windsurf-brea... (paywalled)

I don't understand why Windsurf would care after they've exited.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Post by takklz »

bravetraveler wrote: post #66
takklz wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The rank and file equity pitch is quickly falling apart…

Think it started that way... I'm currently in a vesting/allocation situation where the incentive is to drive the share price down .

Geeeeeze
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