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Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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I’m not sure it is a slippery slope. With a slippery slope we expand the scenario through a sequence of “if X, when what’s to stop Y,” right? Motorcycle cops are an obvious subset of people who ride motorcycles. It isn’t an extension at all to include them in your logic. ATVs might be more of an extension. But, I bet if we wanted to we could find all sorts of jobs that are more dangerous than motorcycle riding. (Edit…

There's a long list of topics where this particular reasoning could draw a line somewhere. It is unfeasible and pointless to cover them all unless they are all banned or all allowed (this essentially is the current state +- AFAIK). I'd say it is worth looking at redrawing that based on the maximum effect achieved. Drugs would be at the top of this list, followed by motor vehicle use and unhealthy foods. There is prob…

I’m not clear on what the effect actually is. If it is cost reduction, not sure where motorcycles should be on the list (they are probably more costly for life insurance agencies than for health insurance ones…).

I guess I’ve been beating around the bush, but my point is that targeting drugs specifically for this sort of thing would seem kind of, I dunno, puritanical to me (as someone who doesn’t partake). I’d rather just insure everybody and hope they don’t hurt themselves, just out of their own self interest.

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Can you explain how it changed after being a father?

I tripped a lot in my early 20s, a whole lot, and never had a bad time. Well, I had some uncomfortable experiences, but not what I can now call a bad trip. One of my first times after, in my experience, I literally went to hell. I was convinced I was on the outskirts, all the people at the party around me were demons, I was about to be tortured forever, and I was never going to see my son again and he was going to gr…

Regarding your trip to hell, I'm interested to know if you have a lifelong belief in heaven and hell, or if it came by itself during the trip.

As an atheist with no supernatural beliefs (that I know of), I wonder if a trip on LSD for me would just be boring, or if these supernatural things become real during a trip even if you don't truly believe in them.

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> His open-source approach democratized psychedelic exploration, shifting power away from costly retreats and elite gatekeepers toward broader accessibility. No surprise that, in keeping with the hacker spirit, Bill wanted to democratize information that is otherwise accessible only to "high" priests.

If you have ever had the experience you will want to share with the world and give everyone the opportunity to experience it.

Is this different from regular DMT?

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People talk about getting out of software and doing woodwork Now this... I've actually done DMT one time was crazy and instant the effects but brief. I did it at a dining room table with wooden grain and concentric ring placemats. I remember seeing my arm like wtf is that. And then the grain/rings moving. Even closing my eyes I'd see colors but was over in a couple minutes. What I had my friend made. Bought some root…

Note that 'DMT' isn't a shortened name for '5-MeO-DMT'. While related, 'DMT' and '5-MeO-DMT' are different compounds, with different effects:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-MeO-DMT#Effects

https://qualiacomputing.com/2020/07/01/5-meo-dmt-vs-nn-dmt-t...

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We need to push to make this stuff legal. I wouldn't go so far as to say lets sell it OTC vape pens at gas stations but a middle ground where you can go to a doctor to have this treatment performed. I personally have never taken DMT though from everything I've read and heard on podcasts it's not something to be taken lightly. I think having a sort of "DMT Clinic" that you can go to would be the best middle ground of…

The state of Oregon is experimenting along these lines: https://www.oregon.gov/oha/ph/preventionwellness/pages/psilo... "A client may only access psilocybin at a licensed service center during an administration session in the presence of a trained, licensed facilitator."

Oregon had gone with a broader decriminalization as of February 1, 2021, but rolled that back in 2024: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Oregon_Ballot_Measure_110

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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I tripped a lot in my early 20s, a whole lot, and never had a bad time. Well, I had some uncomfortable experiences, but not what I can now call a bad trip. One of my first times after, in my experience, I literally went to hell. I was convinced I was on the outskirts, all the people at the party around me were demons, I was about to be tortured forever, and I was never going to see my son again and he was going to gr…

Regarding your trip to hell, I'm interested to know if you have a lifelong belief in heaven and hell, or if it came by itself during the trip. As an atheist with no supernatural beliefs (that I know of), I wonder if a trip on LSD for me would just be boring, or if these supernatural things become real during a trip even if you don't truly believe in them.

I am definitely influenced by Christianity..

Regardless of your beliefs, whatever your experience, I highly doubt you would find it "boring".

I can't even imagine that really, it would take a very boring person.

I've heard a lot of acid stories, but never "I was just kind of bored"

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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We need to push to make this stuff legal. I wouldn't go so far as to say lets sell it OTC vape pens at gas stations but a middle ground where you can go to a doctor to have this treatment performed. I personally have never taken DMT though from everything I've read and heard on podcasts it's not something to be taken lightly. I think having a sort of "DMT Clinic" that you can go to would be the best middle ground of…

A wise legalization might help with access & harm-reduction... but legalizations are sometimes bungled.

In the SF bay area – & plenty of other regions around the world – the criminal enforcement against hallucinogens is, de facto, a very low priority as long as you're not flagrantly endangering or inconveniencing others.

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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Is the world's most powerful psychedelic the personal computer, or is it 5-MeO-DMT (Jaguar)? Not having tried the latter, and therefore speaking from a position of ignorance, I'm inclined toward the former. I think Timothy Leary agreed with me.

Re: Bill Atkinson's psychedelic user interface

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post #144

People talk about getting out of software and doing woodwork Now this... I've actually done DMT one time was crazy and instant the effects but brief. I did it at a dining room table with wooden grain and concentric ring placemats. I remember seeing my arm like wtf is that. And then the grain/rings moving. Even closing my eyes I'd see colors but was over in a couple minutes. What I had my friend made. Bought some root…

I don't partake anymore, only drink nowadays and even that try to only do a day a week since it costs money but also I don't actually enjoy the taste of alcohol. I use it for the social aspect but then I do too much of it and do dumb things like climb buildings or try to fight people, go to strip clubs drop money I don't have. (I spent $1.2K one time it's bad since I go out to try and meet women)

My other drug of choice is adrenaline from driving fast my car currently tops out just under 160mph and I'd go even faster if I could but maybe thankfully I can't. Fear is funny too, I don't fear this but I fear talking to people ha.

I'm trying to stop this because the tickets part, I only screw around on highways when I'm alone and day time, I don't do swimming/cutting people off but yeah.

The speed thing is easy get an old ZR1 it can go 200 but going in a straight line can be boring. It's the acceleration. Recently been watching this guy drive an Elise down roads in Switzerland that's pretty fun and not that fast. I know you can track too but idk.

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