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Re: Andrew Ng: Building Faster with AI [video]

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Post by hoegarden »

bgwalter wrote: post #19
hoegarden wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ng built baidu's AI department and began their start in various sectors with actual AI system design, so yes, he isn't a failed startup entrepreneur like any vibe startup maker who already wants to stop and give advice. Maybe you can help me hire a vibe coder with 10 years experience?

He built it without LLMs in 2014 and now he is selling LLMs for coding to the young. That is the entire point of this subthread.

Right.. He's just a giant, not a midget with a step ladder.

But I do question why anyone who played a significant role in the foundation of the current AI generation would teach an obvious new Zuckerberg generation who will apparently think they are the start of everything if they get a style working in the prompt.

If not for 3 people in 2012, I find it highly unlikely a venture like OpenAI could have occurred and without Ng in particular I wouldn't be surprised if the field would have been missing a few technical pieces as well as the hire-able engineers.

Re: Andrew Ng: Building Faster with AI [video]

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Post by ramraj07 »

handfuloflight wrote: post #11
w10-1 wrote: post #7

Not sure why this has drawn silence and attacks - whence the animus to Ng? His high-level assessments seem accurate, he's a reasonable champion of AI, and he speaks credibly based on advising many companies. What am I missing? (He does fall on the side of open models (as input factors): is that the threat?) He argues that landscape is changing (at least quarterly), and that services are (best) replaceable (often week…

We've defined agents. Let's now define orchestration.

Bold claim. I am not convinced anyone's done a good job defining agents and if they did 99% of the population has a different interpretation.

Re: Andrew Ng: Building Faster with AI [video]

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Post by handfuloflight »

ramraj07 wrote: post #22
handfuloflight wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've defined agents. Let's now define orchestration.

Bold claim. I am not convinced anyone's done a good job defining agents and if they did 99% of the population has a different interpretation.

Okay. We've tried to define agents. Now let's try to define orchestration.

Re: Andrew Ng: Building Faster with AI [video]

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Post by jart »

w10-1 wrote: post #7

Not sure why this has drawn silence and attacks - whence the animus to Ng? His high-level assessments seem accurate, he's a reasonable champion of AI, and he speaks credibly based on advising many companies. What am I missing? (He does fall on the side of open models (as input factors): is that the threat?) He argues that landscape is changing (at least quarterly), and that services are (best) replaceable (often week…

I like Andrew Ng. He's like the Mister Rogers of AI. I always listen when he has something to say.

Re: Andrew Ng: Building Faster with AI [video]

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Post by koakuma-chan »

jart wrote: post #25
w10-1 wrote: post #7

Not sure why this has drawn silence and attacks - whence the animus to Ng? His high-level assessments seem accurate, he's a reasonable champion of AI, and he speaks credibly based on advising many companies. What am I missing? (He does fall on the side of open models (as input factors): is that the threat?) He argues that landscape is changing (at least quarterly), and that services are (best) replaceable (often week…

I like Andrew Ng. He's like the Mister Rogers of AI. I always listen when he has something to say.

Is he affiliated with nghttp?

Re: Andrew Ng: Building Faster with AI [video]

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Post by davorak »

lubujackson wrote: post #16
w10-1 wrote: post #7

Not sure why this has drawn silence and attacks - whence the animus to Ng? His high-level assessments seem accurate, he's a reasonable champion of AI, and he speaks credibly based on advising many companies. What am I missing? (He does fall on the side of open models (as input factors): is that the threat?) He argues that landscape is changing (at least quarterly), and that services are (best) replaceable (often week…

I'm guessing because this is basically an AI for Dummies overview, while half of HN is deep in the weeds with AI already. Nothing wrong with the talk! Except his focus on "do everything" agents already feels a bit stale as the move seems to be going in the direction of limited agents with a much stronger focus on orchestration of tools and context.

> I'm guessing because this is basically an AI for Dummies

I second this, for the silence at least, I listened to the talk because it was Andrew Ng and it is good or at least fun to listen to talks by famous people, but I did not walk away with any new key insights, which is fine, most talks are not that.

Re: Andrew Ng: Building Faster with AI [video]

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Post by handfuloflight »

stego-tech wrote: post #13
w10-1 wrote: post #7

Not sure why this has drawn silence and attacks - whence the animus to Ng? His high-level assessments seem accurate, he's a reasonable champion of AI, and he speaks credibly based on advising many companies. What am I missing? (He does fall on the side of open models (as input factors): is that the threat?) He argues that landscape is changing (at least quarterly), and that services are (best) replaceable (often week…

> So: what platforms are available? I couldn't tell you, but what I can contribute to that discussion is that orchestration of AI in its current form would focus on one of two approaches: consistent output despite the non-deterministic state of LLMs, or consistent inputs that leans into the non-deterministic state of LLMs. The problem with the former (output) is that you cannot guarantee the output of an AI on a cons…

This is great thinking, thank you for writing this.

Re: Andrew Ng: Building Faster with AI [video]

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Post by mnky9800n »

jart wrote: post #25
w10-1 wrote: post #7

Not sure why this has drawn silence and attacks - whence the animus to Ng? His high-level assessments seem accurate, he's a reasonable champion of AI, and he speaks credibly based on advising many companies. What am I missing? (He does fall on the side of open models (as input factors): is that the threat?) He argues that landscape is changing (at least quarterly), and that services are (best) replaceable (often week…

I like Andrew Ng. He's like the Mister Rogers of AI. I always listen when he has something to say.

And he’s been doing it forever and all from the original idea that he could offer a Stanford education on ai for free on the Internet thus he created coursera. The dude is cool.
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