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I love Thunderbird, but the compose message window is just shit. It allows to sslect text type like body, paragraph and so forth - but it always resets to paragraph for me, which leads to weird spacing between lines.
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Thanks for linking that. I've tried Thunderbird a couple of times in the past and quite liked it, but that thread has put me off using it forever. Even if the bug is fiendishly hard to track down and reproduce, you'd think there would be some additional safety checks they could add that would at least let it fail with an error message instead of actual data loss.
> you'd think there would be some additional safety checks they could add that would at least let it fail with an error message instead of actual data loss. My guess is that these would exist, and do. I think you've just made an assumption about a bug that was reported 17 years ago. Assuming nothing has been done since. It looks like they can't reproduce it, * making it impossible to mark as fixed* even if it was. Bu…
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You add more and more diagnostics (e.g. logging) in that area till you manage to track down the bug. Over several years this should be possible. At that point you can either fix the bug directly or do it properly by first reproducing the bug (in a test) and then fixing it.
How do you close a bug you cannot reproduce? Said another way - If they can't reproduce it, they can't close it. They may well have fixed it already, but without a way to reproduce it the only prudent behavior is to leave it open and wait for the next diagnostic file to be uploaded.
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So…do it. Sounds like it’d make a great case study that would get a person tons of attention and praise on HN, a real feather to put in one’s cap. Literally nothing stopping anyone in this thread from opening a PR with this reportedly “very easy” fix that’s eluded developers for nearly two decades, and is so terrible folks swear off Thunderbird forever because I guess for email very basic rules for backing up data do…
> and is so terrible folks swear off Thunderbird forever because I guess for email very basic rules for backing up data don’t apply (or something?) Well, this bug literally causes Thunderbird to delete your original copies of data during the backup process, so I'm not sure why backing up your data is supposed to be the solution.
If you're keeping backups of your disk, then this bug is not unrecoverable.
I wanted to love Thunderbird, used it for years then a bug [0] literally deleted all my emails. I regularly see updates of people understandably raging on the ticket :( It's a bug that literally deletes user data from both the server and the client without warning. It's been open and confirmed for 17 years straight. It could happen to you. How is it not top 1 priority to fix it? [0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_…
I was a thunderbird user many years ago. Seeing the article made me want to reinstall, and then this comment instantly changed my mind. Insane bug for an email client to have…
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Check out what we're building: https://marcoapp.io Basically a cross-platform Thunderbird replacement whose sole goal is to "not suck". Full-text search is entirely client side (not via IMAP) and returns results in single-digit ms.
>not suck >web-tech Pick one. I couldn't find any info on whether this is FOSS or what license it uses.
I wanted to love Thunderbird, used it for years then a bug [0] literally deleted all my emails. I regularly see updates of people understandably raging on the ticket :( It's a bug that literally deletes user data from both the server and the client without warning. It's been open and confirmed for 17 years straight. It could happen to you. How is it not top 1 priority to fix it? [0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_…
I too think they should drop everything else and work on this bug. But an example of how these kinds of bugs are tricky: I have a similar bug at my job: Sometimes browsers delete our extension's database, or otherwise corrupt it. It's been an issue for years, but no one has been able to reproduce it. It's probably a 1 in 10 million bug. I think it's a hardware bug. My "fix" was to backup a small, but key, part of the…
Are any of the bug reporters using Vivaldi? As for some reason that browser allows (and enables by default) clearing extension storage when clearing history/cookies via Delete Browsing Data.
This is something the Stylus addon dev noted when a user was reporting the addon wasn't remembering their settings and it was because the user had unwittingly wiped the extension storage due to the browser defaults.
(I actually use Vivaldi myself but virtually never use that feature so was unaware of the behavior until reading about the bug report)
God, the dark mode change reading is a blessing ! See https://drgrizz.xyz/dark-mode.html why
> So please fellow developers, help spread the darkness to make the world more inclusive. He ought to practice what he preaches. Due to a combo of shitty eyes and dyslexia, I cannot read his site's dark theme without getting a headache.
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Technically it’s not really hypocritical because the author never claimed that a lack of light mode is an accessibility problem. I think it’s also notable that websites being accessible isn’t really about being tied to a specific theme, it’s about being compatible with accessibility tooling and standards (screen readers as an example). There are plenty of CSS manipulation tools that can make a website look whatever w…
Then all that'd apply to sites not having a dark theme, undercutting the author's point because he could just use stylus to.make his own dark theme for sites.
I'm already resorting to tools and workarounds (ie Dark mode reader, invert image extensions, invert colors on phone). But
- they are workarounds, cumbersome, and don't always work well.
- I'm tech-savvy, if you are not and suffer the same condition, you are fucked.