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Re: Grok 4

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post #18

[edit to focus on pricing, leaving praise of Simon's post out despite being deserved] Simon claims, 'Grok 4 is competitively priced. It's $3/million for input tokens and $15/million for output tokens - the same price as Claude Sonnet 4.' This ignores the real price which skyrockets with thinking tokens. This is a classic weird tesla-style pricing tactic at work. The price is not what it seems. The tokens it's burning…

I agree about the pricing being... quirky. It consumes so many tokens for thinking (and the thinking is not optional) so a person thinking about just input/output could get burned.

Re: Grok 4

#43
I didn't follow the Mechahitler issue can someone explain the technical reasons that it happened? Was grok4 released early or was there a variant model used for @grok posts that's separate from grok4?

Re: Grok 4

#44
post #7

Claude Code converted me from paying $0 for LLMs to $200 per month. Any co that wants a chance at getting that $200 ($300 is fine too) from me needs a Claude Code equivalent and a model where the equivalent's tools were part of its RL environment. I don't think I can go back to pasting code into a chat interface, no matter how great the model is.

I hear there's a Grok 4 model specialized for coding coming in the next few weeks.

I have been using Grok 4 via Cursor for a few hours and have found it is able to do some things that other models couldn't (and on the first try).

That said, it also changed areas of the code I did not ask it to on a few occasions. Hopefully these issues will be cleaned up by the impending release.

Re: Grok 4

#45
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Luckily we don't need a benchmark for "how easy is it to turn this AI into a bluesky poster", since they can all already do that

Wow that sure doesn't sound forced at all. Did blaming things on Reddit go out of fashion in your circles or something? Or was the pull of keeping to microblogging platforms just this strong?

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Re: Grok 4

#46

So, to try and make a relatively substantive contribution, the doc mentions that the following were added to grok3's system prompt: - If the query requires analysis of current events, subjective claims, or statistics, conduct a deep analysis finding diverse sources representing all parties. Assume subjective viewpoints sourced from the media are biased. No need to repeat this to the user. - The response should not sh…

I might very well be interested in Grok as a third-party problem-solver and always deal with it at arms length, but I will assuredly never trust the company behind it with anything relating to social issues. That bridge has been burnt to a crisp.

Re: Grok 4

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post #29
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well i'm running claude code 24/7 on a server - instead of short coding sessions

Running on a server? As in, running it yourself?

Maybe in the "infinite number of monkeys writing Shakespeare" way?

Re: Grok 4

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post #43

I didn't follow the Mechahitler issue can someone explain the technical reasons that it happened? Was grok4 released early or was there a variant model used for @grok posts that's separate from grok4?

It was still Grok 3. Nothing to do with Grok 4, except the timing.
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