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Why do you have that in quotes? The article doesn't really even hint at that sentiment. It just says "xAI should avoid needless mistakes".
Grok 4
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Re: Grok 4
#12> My best guess is that these lines in the prompt were the root of the problem: The second line was recently removed, per the GitHub: https://github.com/xai-org/grok-prompts/commit/c5de4a14feb50...
Odd, when i open it the page loads for second , then disappears and claims it was unable to load the page.
But by the point i've already seen what's in it.
Re: Grok 4
#13Is it time for a new benchmark of "how easy is it to turn this AI into a 4chan poster", maybe it is since this seems to be an axis that Elon seems to want to distinguish his AI offering from everyone else's along.
Luckily we don't need a benchmark for "how easy is it to turn this AI into a bluesky poster", since they can all already do that
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Re: Grok 4
#14Is it time for a new benchmark of "how easy is it to turn this AI into a 4chan poster", maybe it is since this seems to be an axis that Elon seems to want to distinguish his AI offering from everyone else's along.
i don't think that's a new benchmark, it's a very old benchmark. Anybody who can't pass it hasn't exceeded the standard set by microsoft tay back in 2016
Re: Grok 4
#15Related thread:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44517055 Grok 4 Launch [video]
2025-07-10T04:02:01 500+ comments
Re: Grok 4
#16> My best guess is that these lines in the prompt were the root of the problem: The second line was recently removed, per the GitHub: https://github.com/xai-org/grok-prompts/commit/c5de4a14feb50...
Odd, when i open it the page loads for second , then disappears and claims it was unable to load the page. But by the point i've already seen what's in it.
Happens to me, too
Re: Grok 4
#17Claude Code converted me from paying $0 for LLMs to $200 per month. Any co that wants a chance at getting that $200 ($300 is fine too) from me needs a Claude Code equivalent and a model where the equivalent's tools were part of its RL environment. I don't think I can go back to pasting code into a chat interface, no matter how great the model is.
How does Claude Code at $200 compare to their basic one, at $20?
Re: Grok 4
#18[edit to focus on pricing, leaving praise of Simon's post out despite being deserved]
Simon claims, 'Grok 4 is competitively priced. It's $3/million for input tokens and $15/million for output tokens - the same price as Claude Sonnet 4.' This ignores the real price which skyrockets with thinking tokens.
This is a classic weird tesla-style pricing tactic at work. The price is not what it seems. The tokens it's burning to think are causing the cost of this model to be extremely high. Check this out: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/grok-4/providers
Perhaps Grok 4 is the second most expensive and the most powerful model in the market right now...
Re: Grok 4
#19Claude Code converted me from paying $0 for LLMs to $200 per month. Any co that wants a chance at getting that $200 ($300 is fine too) from me needs a Claude Code equivalent and a model where the equivalent's tools were part of its RL environment. I don't think I can go back to pasting code into a chat interface, no matter how great the model is.
How does Claude Code at $200 compare to their basic one, at $20?
well i'm running claude code 24/7 on a server - instead of short coding sessions
Re: Grok 4
#20Claude Code converted me from paying $0 for LLMs to $200 per month. Any co that wants a chance at getting that $200 ($300 is fine too) from me needs a Claude Code equivalent and a model where the equivalent's tools were part of its RL environment. I don't think I can go back to pasting code into a chat interface, no matter how great the model is.
How does Claude Code at $200 compare to their basic one, at $20?
It's exactly the same, but the $20 one will almost certainly run out of its daily token alliance if you try to use it for more than an hour or so.