I really love this.
I also just started reading Kagi's changelog. I'm glad I subscribe, these folks rock!
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#12> World doesn't live in echo chambers. The reality emerges from the collision of different viewpoints and perspectives - that's how we separate signal from noise To be honest, when people start talking about "echo chambers" it's usually because they are upset that I won't listen to bigoted alt-right hate. For me this term has gained a really negative connotation. I understand the problem but hearing the same tired ra…
I get where you are going and I do agree with you, but I think there is some validity to still calling it an echo chamber.
For example, I live in Boston and very liberal. I did not grow up in this area though, and I have noticed that among some of my friends that have... they have zero idea what most of this country is actually like. Even just other more moderate liberal people that don't have the "luxury" of living in a big city that largely shields us. Something that I feel like we saw in particular during the last election.
I totally get not caring about, and not wanting to see, the alt-right hate. I don't want to be constantly reminded that people hate me just for existing.
I am not sure what an alterative word for this is, and I think it goes farther than just trying to tune out the alt-right hate.
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#13Kagi founder here. This is prematurely shared and not ready for prime time yet. Official launch with mobile apps will happen soon. Thanks!
I'm very interested in this, I'm a long term kagi subscriber with the free t-shirt!
One thing that would be interesting to explore would be a feed that integrated over a longer timeframe. For example, I subscribe to the guardian weekly, and I like it much more than the daily homepage. News that survives a week tends to be more newsworthy, and there's more scope for the beginnings of retrospective analysis. It would be interesting to be able to play with that timeframe - what does a 3 day window look like, or a 1 month one?
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#14> World doesn't live in echo chambers. The reality emerges from the collision of different viewpoints and perspectives - that's how we separate signal from noise To be honest, when people start talking about "echo chambers" it's usually because they are upset that I won't listen to bigoted alt-right hate. For me this term has gained a really negative connotation. I understand the problem but hearing the same tired ra…
> when people start talking about "echo chambers" it's usually because they are upset that I won't listen to bigoted alt-right hate.
Funny, I think usually see it in the context of people who are upset that people are stuck listening to what they perceive as bigoted alt-right hate.
> Alternative viewpoints, fine. But there are limits
I've found that, in my Twitter feed curation anyways, I like having people around who I agree with on some things but disagree on other things. Or, I need to have some kind of a personal connection to them. Either way, there needs to be something to bridge who I am now to the stuff I disagree with. If it's not there then the stuff I disagree with will never make sense or land, and hanging around it will either turn me off even more or just stress me out, like you're saying.
I think that's a fair way to strike the balance.
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#15Kagi founder here. This is prematurely shared and not ready for prime time yet. Official launch with mobile apps will happen soon. Thanks!
Ah, sorry I spoiled it out. I saw on Reddit and thought it was great (like a lot of other Kagi things).
Keep up the good work!
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#16I love it. This is the only site I want to read the news on. Feature request: Mark the headline as read once I tap or click on it. When I collapse a headline, would it be possible to change the text colour to grey? I don't like having to do manual tasks when I’m just trying to read the news. Amazing tool, thanks!
Also, how's the Orion browser connected to all this? The https://kagi.com homepage has a mix of everything: search, AI assistant, browser, now news. Are these separate products? Will I have to pay for this? It's not very clear.
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#17There’s an iOS app doing something pretty similar:
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#18If you could mash this together with this: https://www.newsminimalist.com/ - that would be great.
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#19Kagi founder here. This is prematurely shared and not ready for prime time yet. Official launch with mobile apps will happen soon. Thanks!
Is it ok to use it, or should I wait until it's officially announced? (P.S. been paying for Kagi search since January, very happy with it)
It's existed for months by now, and has been usable for nearly as long. I'd say you can decide if you need extra fluff like native apps or further "polishing" at this point.
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#20I love how there are no ads on the page and it is all for free, no paywalls, private, to the point, no sponsors, just the news. Can you add RSS feeds as well? More news websites need to take a leaf out of Kagi. Edit: The RSS feed is here: https://kite.kagi.com/world.xml
> and it is all for free,
I'm guessing it's free for now so people can test it and give feedback, since it's still an MVP. But based on the website, once the app is fully released, you'll have to pay for it. So don't get your hopes up, especially with apps that rely on expensive LLMs.
Showing ads or sponsored links is one business model. Charging a subscription to remove them is a different one (like what Twitter recently did).