Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Zorin OS

zorin.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

171–180 of 208 posts

Re: Zorin OS

#171

Post by nopcode »

unpaydijk wrote: post #166
lawlessone wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>. If it detects that there's a Linux version of a Windows installer, it'll guide the user towards the Linux version instead, My anecdotal experience with the steam and steamOS has been that the windows versions of games run better via proton than their native linux versions. One game i have didn't run even run when i was on windows, but the windows version worked in Linux..

>One game i have didn't run even run when i was on windows, but the windows version worked in Linux.. Was it an old game? Those tend to do that >My anecdotal experience with the steam and steamOS has been that the windows versions of games run better via proton than their native linux versions. This is very interesting, does anyone have insights into why? I can only guess the games/their engines are more mindful of o…

The "native linux versions" are typically just the windows games with an old build of wine/proton/etc.

Re: Zorin OS

#172

Post by pedro_caetano »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #158
incanus77 wrote: post #143

I have been using and administering macOS since 2002 and Linux since 1998. Zorin is my favorite distro when I need to put an OS on a machine and want a cohesive, well-designed, low hassle, free system for myself or others. It’s really well done and truly feels like a unit instead of the many, many disparate parts that it is made of. Sure, you can do all of the things that it does in more custom ways assembling and us…

How does Zorin compare to the likes of Mint?

Not GP but Zorin is still Ubuntu under the hood, the main difference is that they really made a lot of Design decisions that are biased towards usability, specially for non-technical people (at arguably the expense of some Free Software principles).

The other more aesthetical aspect is that at least with Zorin 17 they really mimic Windows in a positive way, in that they leverage the 'muscle memory' of non-technical users.

My experience putting it on other people's laptops is that they just intuitively know where to find things because of how the DE is analogue to what they are already familiar with.

Re: Zorin OS

#173

Post by bzzzt »

nopcode wrote: post #171
unpaydijk wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>One game i have didn't run even run when i was on windows, but the windows version worked in Linux.. Was it an old game? Those tend to do that >My anecdotal experience with the steam and steamOS has been that the windows versions of games run better via proton than their native linux versions. This is very interesting, does anyone have insights into why? I can only guess the games/their engines are more mindful of o…

The "native linux versions" are typically just the windows games with an old build of wine/proton/etc.

Depends, I've still got some of the end-90's Loki game ports. Those were 'real' Linux binaries but won't run on modern Linux distributions due to changes in core libraries. The big game engines (Unreal, Unity) and even smaller ones (Gamemaker, Godot, AGS) offer Linux runtime support.

Re: Zorin OS

#175

Post by lproven »

gxonatano wrote: post #151
lproven wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> in favor of bad design ideas from 1995 (looking at you, Start menu) For what it's worth, that's the point when your comment jumped the shark. I knew then that this was just a rant. The Start menu was a _superb_ piece of design, as was Win95 in general. If nothing else, the existence proof of this is the sheer number of other desktops that imitate the design: KDE; GNOME 1/2; MATE; Xfce; QNX Neutrino Photon; Inferno;…

> the existence proof of this is the sheer number of other desktops that imitate the design That's where you're wrong. The desktop environments that imitate Win95 elements do it to provide something familiar for their users. The KDE team is not sitting around going, "you know what was designed really well? The Start Menu!" In fact, many of the desktop environments you mention (GNOME Flashback, Cinnamon) were a conser…

I disagree on all points. I suspect that you lack historical context to this design, and may be too young to thoroughly grasp it. I have read that younger people (millennials and younger) tend not to think in hierarchies and find them complex and difficult.

Tell me, what pre-Windows 95 GUI designs are you familiar with? I don't mean know slightly, I mean know well.

Re: Zorin OS

#176

Post by carlosjobim »

jraph wrote: post #164
carlosjobim wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I take issue with selling open source projects that could otherwise be downloaded for free. Why should they concern themselves with you taking issue? What I mean is what gives you the right to have an opinion on their conduct?

I disagree with them, I find selling free software to be a pretty solid and ethical way of funding free software, but why would they not have the right to have an opinion on this? I certainly have strong opinions about many software vendors, who distribute proprietary software, often full of ads and tracking on top of that, why would I not have the right to find that strongly unethical?

Since it seems to be without any grounds that the other user is anonymously accusing named individuals of acting unethically, I wanted to ask what gives him that right?

If he has a real argument, let's look into it. If not, then he's slandering innocent people without any due and the question is then why in the world they should care about this persons opinion?

Re: Zorin OS

#177

Post by qn9n »

marci wrote: post #141
olejorgenb wrote: post #128

I assume it's due to marketing, but it really irks me that I have to scroll down to the bottom and click "View technical details about Zorin OS" to find out that this is a Linux distro build on top of Ubuntu...

It's in the homepage, in the blue and green parts near the middle (Reliable | Secure). But still, they have the place for windows and macos in the tagline, they could add linux.

I believe, given their target audience, it doesn’t matter. The information is available for those who care, but for the non-technical user who is fed up with their current OS, the message is: “Feel at home on ZorinOS and experience a performance and security boost.”

They understand that technically-oriented people will research the OS and its underlying components, but their target audience isn’t technical. Therefore, bombarding them with overly technical details on the home page is counterproductive.

In my opinion, ZorinOS has effectively marketed itself.

Re: Zorin OS

#178

Post by [deleted] »

Kaytaro wrote: post #152
fao_ wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Zorin boasting about you being able to play "an enormous library of your favorite games" or boasting about the vast software library feels like asking for trouble. It won't be long before users run into rough edges. Out of the top 1000 games on steam: https://www.protondb.com/dashboard 29 are "borked" (unplayable) 26 are "bronze" (issues playing like "might crash") 82 are "silver" ("runs with minor issues but is pl…

I find protondb misleading because GTA V is supposedly "Gold" except Online does not work at all because of anti-cheat. Same goes for many other popular multiplayer games.

[deleted]

Re: Zorin OS

#179

Post by a2128 »

mitkebes wrote: post #134
roger_ wrote: post #5

“Bundled with alternatives to over $5,000 of professional software” That sounds spammy and misleading to me. I’m assuming they’re just including open source alternatives and assuming the same value as commercial offerings.

I think that's mostly there to give people confidence that they'll have real, quality software available. A concern for new linux users is that they'll be missing software they need, that statement expresses that there will be a lot of software available, and that the quality is comparable to profession quality.

I wouldn't consider GIMP a real, professional-quality alternative to Photoshop (I say this as someone who uses GIMP on a daily basis)
Post reply on HN