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Thunderbird 140 “Eclipse”

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Re: Thunderbird 140 “Eclipse”

#11
Is Oauth accounts with an authenticator working yet? I desperately want to use it at work, but we have O365 with Okta and Yubikeys in front of it, and Thunderbird can handle the Okta but won't prompt for a PIN for the Yubikeys.

Re: Thunderbird 140 “Eclipse”

#12

Since some months somehow the windows are weirdly aligned inside Thunderbird, like the attachment bar is cut off at the bottom. I might be connected to my Awesome WM but I haven't changed anything on this side. Anyone else noticed something?

The only thing I noticed from the previous update was that some view settings seemed to have been reset, otherwise no layout issues that I can recall.

Re: Thunderbird 140 “Eclipse”

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post #3

There is no mention of sync functionality. I regularly use 3 different PCs and I cannot sync settings easily. It means I've give up using Thunderbird on all but one of the PCs. They've also made the usability worse in recent versions and are copying the insanely annoying context menus in Windows 11, which cannot be reverted.

I covered that and the alternative in my Register piece. You might find that useful.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/09/new_thunderbird_esr_i...

Re: Thunderbird 140 “Eclipse”

#15
post #8

I love that Thunderbird is moving forward. That said: I tried to add a new mail account to Thunderbird after upgrading to version 140. Unfortunately, it shows an error message after merely asking for my name and my email address and then hangs in an endless animation.

I'm sure some Thunderbird devs read HN, but if you'd be interested in helping more people with this comment, I'd log it at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Thunderbi...

Re: Thunderbird 140 “Eclipse”

#16
I wanted to love Thunderbird, used it for years then a bug [0] literally deleted all my emails. I regularly see updates of people understandably raging on the ticket :( It's a bug that literally deletes user data from both the server and the client without warning. It's been open and confirmed for 17 years straight. It could happen to you. How is it not top 1 priority to fix it?

[0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462156

Re: Thunderbird 140 “Eclipse”

#17
post #11

Is Oauth accounts with an authenticator working yet? I desperately want to use it at work, but we have O365 with Okta and Yubikeys in front of it, and Thunderbird can handle the Okta but won't prompt for a PIN for the Yubikeys.

As a workaround, consider using https://github.com/simonrob/email-oauth2-proxy

Re: Thunderbird 140 “Eclipse”

#18
post #10
post #3

There is no mention of sync functionality. I regularly use 3 different PCs and I cannot sync settings easily. It means I've give up using Thunderbird on all but one of the PCs. They've also made the usability worse in recent versions and are copying the insanely annoying context menus in Windows 11, which cannot be reverted.

Also gave up Thunderbird years ago because of the same reason. Just wanted something stable and chose Spark. Works on every device, not a problem for years.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Re: Thunderbird 140 “Eclipse”

#19
Could they just make it not suck? Like the search system falls apart if you have more than a few thousand messages in a folder, not all that many by today's standards. The address book doesn't let you sort the addresses by most recently added, which is important if you reply to craigslist posts which use numeric forwarding addresses. So once you have more than a handful of them the are impossible to tell apart. It automatically makes new archive folders by year (2023, 2024, 2025...) which is kind of nice, except it shows them oldest first instead of newest first, so you have to scroll way down to get to the current year. The progress bar on the bottom looks like there is constantly something going on, and maybe there is, but it never finishes. Messages sometimes fall through cracks so you can't find them in any folder but you can sometimes find them with global search. And on and on. Stop adding new features or messing up the UI further until basic functionality like this works.

Re: Thunderbird 140 “Eclipse”

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post #5
post #3

There is no mention of sync functionality. I regularly use 3 different PCs and I cannot sync settings easily. It means I've give up using Thunderbird on all but one of the PCs. They've also made the usability worse in recent versions and are copying the insanely annoying context menus in Windows 11, which cannot be reverted.

Sync? Just connect to your accounts on each machine? Or are you using POP3 and want that to sync?

You need to export the profile and re-import on each machine. If you make any changes on one machine you want to see it reflected on the others.

The profile import is a bit iffy and there was some odd issues with downloading profiles over 2GB IIRC, the last time I did it (which was over 2 years ago).

There seems to be a lot of focus on features that IMO that I couldn't care less about and some outright stupid UI decisions like the context menus being changed after 20 years for god knows what reasons.

The result was that I just gave up and use Thunderbird on one machine and web-mail on all the others. I suspect I will just drop Thunderbird as a result.

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