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Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by Apfel »

danpalmer wrote: post #558
hakanderyal wrote: post #406

Interesting nobody has mentioned Nikita. X has hired Nikita Bier, of Gas and tbh fame ( https://x.com/nikitabier ), as head of product some days ago. He posted a meme earlier today which may or may not be related to this.

Reading his timeline is somewhat rage-inducing. He's just another edgelord who can't decide if he believes the terrible things he's posting or is just ironically posting them. It's all just attention seeking, there's no value in the posts, no product insight, no teaching like I see from true industry leaders.

Twitter only showing a sample of posts for non-logged-in users allowed me to see just how weirdly hung up on "Europeans" that guy is.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by insane_dreamer »

> Top executives regularly come and go at Mr. Musk’s various companies. One exception is Gwynne Shotwell, the president of SpaceX, who joined Mr. Musk’s rocket company shortly after its founding in 2002.

That's an amazingly long tenure under Musk. And considering SpaceX's success, she must be an exceptional leader.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by freejazz »

southernplaces7 wrote: post #395
freejazz wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone has any interest in "debating" you. Personally, I don't get into arguments with people who do not seem connected to reality. There is no point in it. That seems like the sort of thing a 12 year old would do. You'd probably find more purchase with your arguments at an adolescent playground anyway. >I simply don't see the destructiveness and failure that many people, here on this site and elsewhere…

Hence the idiocy of downvoting. What's disconnected from reality in what I said? As for Grok, so? It's an LLM and all of them are prone to saying all kinds of invented bullshit. Are you seriously going to get morally scandalized by an LLM parrot, with no self-awareness, saying some racist nonsense? It would be better to know how it was prompted into this, and by whom, then blame them more specifically. Also note that…

None of this is in good faith. I'm not morally scandalized by Grok. I'm morally scandalized that they would make it do that. I'm sure you're going to argue some ridiculous semantic point about how Grok actually did it all on its own. It definitely did not spontaneously turn on hitler shit.

>Either way, Musk is definitely a narcissist and almost certainly strays off into derangement at times, but a stupid man, no, and even with X it's shortsighted to say anything about failure.

He sounds dumb pretty much every time he opens his mouth. I haven't heard him say anything intelligent. Good business man? If you insist. Total moron in my book. That's for sure.

Have fun.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by raydev »

Centigonal wrote: post #564
makeitdouble wrote: post #501

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Most people were betting on X going under in some way or another within a year. From that POV, it's survival in itself can be seen a success for Musk. I'm genuinely surprised at the amount of people that stuck to it.

Whether or not X goes under is almost fully dependent on whether it services its debt. That debt is backstopped by Elon Musk, who has enough assets to service that debt for at least another few decades. Whether or not X goes under is almost entirely one man's choice.

The Twitter-purchase debt problem is a lot less relevant now that he's rolled X into xAI. Now X the app gets to tag along with a higher value AI company (or at least it is currently valued much higher due to investors dreaming big).

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by raydev »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #401
petersellers wrote: post #385

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> Twitter/X is the reason DJT became President. I really don't think so, at least not in isolation. It probably contributed a small part but the right wing media machine is multi-faceted. There were a lot of podcasters (i.e. Joe Rogan), comedians and youtubers all publicly in support of a second DJT presidency and I think that had a much bigger factor overall than Twitter.

The media gets their news from Twitter and Twitter drives the questions the media asks. It's indirectly a bigger factor than you give it credit for.

The vast majority of his base, and a majority of his voters, doesn't even trust legacy media unless it agrees with Trump. Even Fox News is routinely under fire not by Trump, but by his fans and Republicans broadly.

I very much doubt there was a different set of questions that would change peoples' minds about him after how his first term went.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by raydev »

wredcoll wrote: post #545
BeetleB wrote: post #452

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It's a stretch to say this would have made a major impact. Biden won fairly comfortably. COVID was Trump's bad luck.

Bad luck? Covid was the definition of an easy layup. It's like bush and 9/11, should be a trivial re-election.

The extended lockdowns 100% ended his term. It upset too many people for too long. Regardless of actual responsiblity, big nationwide negative events always get laid at the feet of the current sitting president.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by raydev »

aaronax wrote: post #378
mvdtnz wrote: post #366

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If you think twitter made even 1% difference in 2016 I urge you to go and touch some grass. This stuff doesn't matter.

Way more likely that it was /r/the_donald. In my humble, biased opinion--since I was around there but never really active on Twitter.

There weren't a lot of 50+ year old folks on Reddit in 2016. Now there are, but that's because they've aged into that range.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by davidw »

makeitdouble wrote: post #501
zero_shift wrote: post #459

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I cannot see how it was a success. 1. He overpaid by tens of billions. That is a phenomenal amount of money to lose on an unforced error. 2. Enough users, who produce enough content, have left to make X increasingly a forum for porn bots, scam accounts and political activists. It's losing its appeal as the place "where the news happens" and is instead becoming more niche. 3. The firings did not go well. X has struggl…

Most people were betting on X going under in some way or another within a year. From that POV, it's survival in itself can be seen a success for Musk. I'm genuinely surprised at the amount of people that stuck to it.

> I'm genuinely surprised at the amount of people that stuck to it.

I thought more people would see a guy doing ... that salute, or things like the antisemitism in Grok in the past few days and say "no", but a huge number of people seem to be able to rationalize things away.

I'm with Wil Wheaton https://bsky.app/profile/wilwheaton.net/post/3ltkjyzjb4k2p

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by rendaw »

josefresco wrote: post #43
sorcerer-mar wrote: post #29

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It's weird that you say both she had no material power and also seem to imply the valuation drop and lawsuits were due to her ineptitude? Anyway she volunteered to be a puppet for a man who is clearly off the rails and her legacy will forever be stained.

Both things can be true: Valuation did drop during her tenure, AND she was not to blame. Therefore the praise is weird, because she seemingly neither helped nor hurt the business.

GP is specifically responding to

> Remarkably inept.

She did exactly what she was hired for. The plan was terrible, but she executed it as well as expected. It's hard to see any ineptitude.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by cedws »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #632

> Top executives regularly come and go at Mr. Musk’s various companies. One exception is Gwynne Shotwell, the president of SpaceX, who joined Mr. Musk’s rocket company shortly after its founding in 2002. That's an amazingly long tenure under Musk. And considering SpaceX's success, she must be an exceptional leader.

I wonder what people like her who were around Musk in the early days think of him now. It’s striking how much he’s changed. When I see videos of him speaking 20, even 10 years ago, he seems much more grounded, inspired, maybe even intellectual.

Something has happened to him I feel. Maybe drugs brought out the storm inside that was always there.

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