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Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by dekhn »

I live across the street from an elementary school and during recess it gets quite noisy. I don't particularly mind, with one big exception: some kids scream a lot. I normally associate that screaming sound with "there is an emergency, check for trouble", but it's just kids playing (and I hear the teachers telling them to stop). Even during the off season, there is noise; for example, the people doing construction work sometimes trip the fire alarm, which rings for hours because the site staff isn't around.

I'd love to explain the idea of alarm fatigue, but from experience, people just think you're a jerk if you say "You should stop that alarm from turning on when there isn't a fire, because I will stop paying attention"

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by dekhn »

petercooper wrote: post #10

For years our neighborhood had an ice cream truck or two turn up a few days a week during summer, which we used to enjoy. This year, not a single one. I saw one of the trucks at a school fete and asked about it. The guy said one person had complained about the noise so the local council banned them after 7pm! With most of their sales falling between 6-9pm, they decided it wasn't worth it for one hour and moved on to…

Can we trade? I live near a park and many days I hear the truck driving around the block literally for hours, and they just play one song.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by pizzafeelsright »

timcobb wrote: post #24
pizzafeelsright wrote: post #12

Kids are mildly annoying but generally there's a time and a place. I have kids. I love a loud house with quiet time. Loud children above age 2ish in the movie theater or restaurant are to be behaved because of the proximity of others. Babies on airplanes get a pass because iykyk

This. My child can shriek at what really feels like ear-piercing frequencies and decibels.

Thankfully boys grow out of it but girls can hit that frequency that cuts the skin.

The general rule is no screaming without a good reason.

As for those without parenting experience there isn't anything you can do short of killing the infant to get it quiet. They go from struggling to inconsolable which is literally a place where they have to exhaust themselves before they calm down. If the parent could quiet the kid they would.

I've experienced it a few times and despite all my experience and skills the child couldn't be soothed until tired enough to respond positively. In most cases it's less than 90 minutes unless there's a physical reason. Then it can be 8 hours. Bless the parents with children with damaged biology.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by c22 »

gedy wrote: post #123
c22 wrote: post #115

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The other day an unleashed dog ran into my yard from the adjacent park and the woman escorting it informed me that I should build a fence!

Yeah I like dogs, but growing up we treated them as a home and backyard pet only, having them run around in neighborhood or bringing to stores or restaurants(!) would have been unthinkable. I really don't get it.

I didn't even have a problem with the dog being there. The lady was put out that she had to fight through some brambles to come over and retrieve it.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by msds »

Ok but my neighborhood children have started using electric leaf blowers as jet propulsion on skateboards. I have insisted they use hearing protection, but the rest of us are shit out of luck…

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by dylan604 »

subjectsigma wrote: post #127
taeric wrote: post #81

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Certainly, there were plenty of "dude, really?" moments when kids would go over on limits. It is hard not to think we haven't pushed the limits down to zero, though. Granted, using smoking as an example is hilarious to me. I confess near zero sympathy for that going away. If anything, I'm pretty sure I'm more dumbfounded that people still smoke in any real numbers.

Former/recovering smoker. I hear this sentiment a lot (“Why would anyone ever smoke? It’s just dumbfounding”). I can tell you the reason people smoke is because it feels fucking great. It’s a terrible, terrible habit and the number of smokers of any drug should be zero, but I’m not going to lie to you and tell you it wasn’t relaxing and enjoyable.

It's the same thing as why would any shoot a spike into their veins to get high on heroin. The lack of empathy for an addict is telling. The indignity of a righteous ex is insufferable. How someone became an addict is not necessarily relevant, but once they're hooked quitting is not so simple as those unable to empathize while on high horses want to think.

It is however annoying when the addict does their thing in public with zero fucks to give for anyone else around them.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

rascul wrote: post #85
klank wrote: post #23

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OP mentioned "lawnmowers, weed whackers, and gasoline powered tools". That has nothing to do with standard carpentry.

Gasoline powered generators and air compressors that the carpenter might use to power tools can be quite noisy.

I cannot wait for these to be banned, please, I hope.

It would cost so little comparative money for construction sites to go battery powered. There's some exemptions that need to be made (welders), but man, I doubt the average construction worker uses 1kWh a week. Battery power that shit, you brutes, and spare the world!

Switching these folks to battery would be such an enormous relief for cities. The cheapest shittiest 2 stroke generators raging from 7am to 4pm is an infernal senseless ceaseless din.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by cocothem »

taylorlapeyre wrote: post #16
petercooper wrote: post #10

For years our neighborhood had an ice cream truck or two turn up a few days a week during summer, which we used to enjoy. This year, not a single one. I saw one of the trucks at a school fete and asked about it. The guy said one person had complained about the noise so the local council banned them after 7pm! With most of their sales falling between 6-9pm, they decided it wasn't worth it for one hour and moved on to…

I agree, but with a caveat about ice cream trucks specifically. If they park in one spot and play the same jingle very loudly for hours on end (say, three to four hours in one location outside of your home), it is in fact insanely maddening.

for the entire time the ice cream truck is stopped, it's engine is still running and generating toxic fumes. Had one parking strategically right next to a playground.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by matthewaveryusa »

moron4hire wrote: post #92
loco5niner wrote: post #44

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Ice cream trucks are specifically obnoxious especially in a neighborhood or a park. I would also complain. They would fit in fine at a carnival or similar. I've always found it odd that most people would complain if someone sprayed water all over them, but are surprised when people complain the same way about obnoxious noise. I do live next to an elementary school and enjoy listening to the children playing. Like the…

Ice cream trucks are a weaponized guilty trip against parents. The kids whine and complain about wanting ice cream and I'm already having a hard enough time modeling good food habits for them. If it were once a month I wouldn't mind, but it's been every day for the last month. Like, dude, nobody needs ice cream that much. Please stop starting an argument in my house. Incidentally, we just replaced all the windows in…

100% this. I tell the kids it's a trick and they seem to like it and point out when the trick-truck is back. Works great at checkout as well with the trick shelves.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by op00to »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #118
gilfoy wrote: post #88

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It absolutely is. Gettin an ice cream truck banned from your neighborhood because you heard it drive by is the epitome of Karen behavior.

Blasting sound out of your vehicle into a residential area for hours just because you want to sell something is selfish. So is defending the behavior and imposing it on everyone around you just because it's sometimes convenient for you to walk 10 meters for some ice cream once a month. Like TFA says, we have to decide as a society what kind of noise we think is worthwhile. The sound of kids playing seems essential fo…

Ice cream trucks are awesome. I have stopped wfh zoom meetings due to Mister Softee coming by and wanting to grab an ice cream. The surprise and delight of a treat when totally unexpected is wonderful. No one complained.
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