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When Figma starts designing us

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Re: When Figma starts designing us

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Post by jason_plasmic »

miiiiiike wrote: post #10

No, here’s the problem: Figma doesn’t go far enough. If you need a free form design tool to sketch, use one. There are hundreds of them. I need to implement my design system inside of a design tool so I can prototype designs with multiple breakpoints, container queries, modes, and variants. Figma isn’t up to the job. Ever tried opening the variables tab on the Material 3 Figma file? Stutter, stutter, stutter, “this t…

I'm late to reply, but check out Plasmic. We often get the complaint that we're too engineer-y instead of designer-y, so it might work for you.

Re: When Figma starts designing us

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Post by silvershell »

raincole wrote: post #46
miiiiiike wrote: post #10

No, here’s the problem: Figma doesn’t go far enough. If you need a free form design tool to sketch, use one. There are hundreds of them. I need to implement my design system inside of a design tool so I can prototype designs with multiple breakpoints, container queries, modes, and variants. Figma isn’t up to the job. Ever tried opening the variables tab on the Material 3 Figma file? Stutter, stutter, stutter, “this t…

> If you need a free form design tool to sketch, use one. There are hundreds of them. Before Figma, the norm of design tool was Photoshop, not the other "hundreds of them." So go back in time, if you had been Figma founder developing a tool that appeals to most designers, it should've looked more like Photoshop than like CSS/HTML.

There is the sketch app , which is older and more of a direct competitor to Figma. Figma won because of being web based/ multi platform among other advantages.

Re: When Figma starts designing us

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #49
raincole wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you need a free form design tool to sketch, use one. There are hundreds of them. Before Figma, the norm of design tool was Photoshop, not the other "hundreds of them." So go back in time, if you had been Figma founder developing a tool that appeals to most designers, it should've looked more like Photoshop than like CSS/HTML.

Fireworks also existed the whole time which had a lot of Figma's features but bizarrely was completely ignored by 95% of designers.

I used Fireworks a lot, and what amazed me at Sketch when I found it, is that they figured out every single thing that bothered me in Fireworks and did it right. At that period, Figma was mostly copying all the tiny clever innovations done by Sketch.

Re: When Figma starts designing us

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Post by zeroc8 »

asoneth wrote: post #105
travisgriggs wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can someone help me understand when this bifurcation happened. As a Mechanical Enginneer who worked their way through college doing software, and then... just kept going for the next 30 years, I find this increasingly role based demarcation difficult to understand/accept. I came out of an era where we called ourselves engineers, but we were designers too. And a whole lot of other things. And the mantra regardless of…

> Can someone help me understand when this bifurcation happened The distinction is as old as art and design. If I had to pick modern moments that articulated it well I'd go with Arts and Crafts followed by Bauhaus. > solve the right problem for the right people Solving problems is the core of design and a design can be evaluated on the basis of how well it solves a problem. Whereas art is free to simply exist. Many w…

But doing away with that crap was what drew lots of old skool coders in in the first place. Myself included. Now I need 10x the resources to do anything compared to my Delphi 6 and PHP 3 days. It sucks.

Re: When Figma starts designing us

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Post by sevenseacat »

bbx wrote: post #27

Having designed websites with Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator and Sketch, I absolutely love Figma and especially Auto Layout. I don't think people realise how annoying it was to design a list of repeatable items. There already was a concept of "smart object" or "component" that could be duplicated in instances with variations. But laying them out was really cumbersome: if one of the instance had a different heigh…

I loved Illustrator way way back in the day when I was a poor student with a cracked version. I found it so easy to use!

Design software nowadays... oh boy

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