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Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by cindyllm »

PaulHoule wrote: post #519
mandmandam wrote: post #126

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> she was not to blame. Fall guys bear some of the blame in the fall. My long-held [0] personal theory - borne out by everything Musk has done, and by who bought Twitter - is that it was bought to curb the possibility of large positive social movements along the lines of OWS or BLM. Enabling that can entail being useless at your supposed job, while doing your actual job (which deserves some amount of blame, from a nu…

Nothing positive can come out of Twitter for McLuhanite reasons. Zohran Mamdami's greatest attribute in media is that if you see him in video you see him listening to people. Even people who aren't inclined to agree with him talk to him and say "he was so nice, he listened to me." High-D [1] billionaires who support High-D candidates such as Clinton, Cuomo and Adams are driven crazy by this. [2] Even though Twitter d…

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Post by aorloff »

tonymet wrote: post #335
leakycap wrote: post #42

When I saw this news, my first thought was that she lasted about 1 year and 11 months longer than I expected after the first few weeks. I know Twitter had many terrible aspects, but I do miss the world voice old Twitter provided for quotes that could be engaged with in an "everyone is here" kind of feeling that doesn't exist on any other platforms right now.

Can you drill into "everyone is here"? Prior to twitterfiles, Twitter felt overly corporate . I agree it's pivoted into another community. A lot of the mainstream and left leaning contributors have been downranked or moved to other platforms. But Twitter hasn't felt like raw, egalitarian conversation since 2009

> Prior to twitterfiles, Twitter felt overly corporate

Your take on a highly selective propagandized "expose" done internally by a corporation raider who just raided the corp that he is exposing, is to say that before oligarch took over things felt a little "corporate" ?

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Post by SonOfLilit »

sillyfluke wrote: post #436
throwaway48476 wrote: post #401

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The media gets their news from Twitter and Twitter drives the questions the media asks. It's indirectly a bigger factor than you give it credit for.

To be fair, as I understand it they're saying the podcasters were most likely the ones that pushed him over the edge this time around. "Small part" meaning 10-15 percent is not too bad for twitter. And I do think rightwing podcasters and tiktok got the young male votes out more than twitter did this time around. I also doubt hispanics and other minorities voted for Trump because they were obsessively on twitter. Not…

Did any Trump voters think he will be harder on Israel than Biden or Kamala?

In Israel the debate was "should we be rooting for Trump because of how much of a blank check he will give our government, or against him because of the damage he will do to the free world that we are part of and also the blank check that he will give our government?"

Since this prediction turned out basically correct, I wonder if across the seas people had different expectations?

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Post by fpia »

debugnik wrote: post #431
breppp wrote: post #350

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My conspiracy theory was that because of Musk's involvement in OpenAI he had foreknowledge of the impeding release of ChatGPT. In that context, Twitter as a source for AI training can be far more valuable than a rage filled social network. However he still failed horribly to time the market

> Twitter as a source for AI training can be far more valuable than a rage filled social network Isn't Twitter the go-to example of a rage filled social network?

nah, that's 4chan

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Post by frdnurd »

madeofpalk wrote: post #139
josefresco wrote: post #43

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Both things can be true: Valuation did drop during her tenure, AND she was not to blame. Therefore the praise is weird, because she seemingly neither helped nor hurt the business.

One would imagine that a CEO lacking power is the precise reason a company would perform poorly.

Elizabeth Holmes had all the power. Also being competent matters.

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Post by Zigurd »

The whole thing was a toxic brew of an autocratic owner choosing a weak CEO he can push around plus the glass cliff. Yaccarino was a perfectly fine ad sales executive in a legacy media company. She could've had a really pleasant couple of years. I hope she negotiated a severance that sets her up nicely.

I know everyone involved is a consenting adult, but the cynicism is still pretty icky.

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Post by prepend »

teyc wrote: post #494
falcor84 wrote: post #195

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Indeed. It was such a paradoxical situation from the start, with her both reporting to Musk as the chairman and owner, while at the same time "managing" him as the CTO. I'm surprised that the charade went on for as long as it did.

On Acquired podcast, Ballmer spoke of his experience as CEO with Gates as CTO. It was hell.

I just listened to that episode yesterday and that’s not how I perceived it all. Ballmer barely described it as much as I remember.

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Post by desichix1 »

fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #215
kylebenzle wrote: post #187

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Of course I hate what Elon has done to Twitter but you're feeling previously that everyone was there was an illusion brought on by massive propaganda and manipulation of the conversation. The same thing has happened to Reddit now, well it feels more inclusive and open it's actually an incredibly controlled enclosed system that only allows one specific viewpoint. Now of course to the people inside that bubble it feels…

> liberal echo chamber It skews one way, but there's definitely a large diversity in opinions on Reddit that are not hard to find. It's also transitioning into an India social media site, just from sheer population numbers.

> It skews one way, but there's definitely a large diversity in opinions on Reddit that are not hard to find. It's also transitioning into an India social media site, just from sheer population numbers.

This happened on Quora until almost all western users left. Initially it was nice to have diversity of users and opinions, but then people started using Indian parlance that only other Indian users could understand (started referring to salaries as crore, relationship advice would reference Indian actors, etc.)

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Post by robocat »

ethbr1 wrote: post #202
falcor84 wrote: post #195

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Indeed. It was such a paradoxical situation from the start, with her both reporting to Musk as the chairman and owner, while at the same time "managing" him as the CTO. I'm surprised that the charade went on for as long as it did.

I'd imagine the paycheck helped resolve the quandary.

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Post by [deleted] »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #383
dctoedt wrote: post #337

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> I think there is some blame for not standing up to Musk and leading better. That seems in the same category as saying there's some blame on her for not working harder on basketball in her youth and so never becoming a WNBA Finals MVP. (Narrator: Um, no, she's not nearly tall enough ....)

I'm just not sure her complete lack of power to stand up to Musk is a defense. If a controversial rich guy offers you a CEO job that consists entirely of laundering his reputation by pretending his decisions are your own, you have a social responsibility not to take it. I'd be more sympathetic if she were some random person who couldn't otherwise dream of an executive level pay package, but she was the head of ads at…

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