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Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by baby »

mrweasel wrote: post #130
Hoasi wrote: post #50

X has been nothing short of an exercise in brand destruction. However, despite all the drama, it still stands, it still exists, and it remains relevant.

More and more I think Musk managed to his take over of Twitter pretty successfully. X still isn't as strong a brand as Twitter where, but it's doing okay. A lot of the users who X need to stay on the platform, journalists and politicians, are still there. The only issue is that Musk vastly overpaid for Twitter, but if he plans to keep it and use it for his political ambitions, that might not matter. Also remember tha…

It's interesting because, as I'm reading this I agree with y'all, it's still stand and I'm still on it. Yet, as a major twitter user, who has a large number of followers and has benefited from twitter a lot (made many relationships, got a job through it, successfully launched a book and a company thanks to it, etc.) I seem to be using twitter less and less these days.

I dislike Elon, but I need twitter so much that I can't leave. And yet, my feed which was so useful in the past, and filled with cryptography content, has become pure political ragebait content. To the point that it's less and less useful to me.

I'm sad because there's just nowhere for me to go, all my followers are there.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by baby »

taurath wrote: post #172
alpha_squared wrote: post #66

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Which really says a lot about how hard it is to leave platforms. The network effect is hard to overcome.

There's no technical reason that one couldn't move from platform to platform and link identities - the restrictions around IP and platform lock-in only benefit the platform owner, ensuring that competition will be stifled rather than the platform made useful for its users. The sad part is that ad networks know more about our connections across platforms than we're allowed to.

how do you move platform when you have >10k followers on twitter?

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by baby »

guywithahat wrote: post #296
rtkwe wrote: post #249

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They had managed to get a verb into relatively common speech and their revenue has collapsed since the Musk take over I'd say it's pretty thoroughly destroyed.

I find this X doomsday talk is pretty isolated to reddit/other minor social media sites. The site itself is doing fine, and maintains a strong investor/startup ecosystem, with a slight fall in usage after the election (which isn't uncommon for Twitter/X). My understanding is that a few advertisers threatened to leave and then returned after a few days/weeks. It's a private company now so I don't know what their reven…

you realize Threads basically have the same amount of daily users now? This should never have happened

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by steveBK123 »

peab wrote: post #384
steveBK123 wrote: post #164

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It's gotta be more than that too though. Maybe training data other companies won't touch? Hidden prompt they aren't publishing? Etc. Clearly Musk has put his hand on the scale in multiple ways.

I think it's more so that they push changes quickly without exhaustively testing. Compare that to Google, who sits on a model for years for fear of hurting their reputation, or OpenAI and Anthropic who extensively red teams models

Why does Grok keep "failing" in the same directional way if its just a testing issue?

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by thunderfork »

peab wrote: post #381
fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #215

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> liberal echo chamber It skews one way, but there's definitely a large diversity in opinions on Reddit that are not hard to find. It's also transitioning into an India social media site, just from sheer population numbers.

reddit is like the most censored part of the internet at the moment.

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Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by woah »

quantified wrote: post #408
woah wrote: post #247

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It's conspiratorial thinking to assume that everything that happens in the world is perfectly executed by omniscient villains with 20/20 hindsight. Maybe a formerly-brilliant but drug-addled rich guy just bought a social media platform with bad fundamentals at the height of its valuation and then mismanaged it while flailing around with other ventures and political adventures. Occam's razor.

You are conveniently omitting his reason to buy it. Personal megaphone and shortly thereafter LLM training data are the simplest reasons.

Maybe he just spent a lot of time shitposting on there.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by dzhiurgis »

mandmandam wrote: post #253
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #204

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See my only counterpoint to this theory is Musk has a long and well documented history of being absolutely stone desperate to be cool, which is the only thing he can't buy, and he simply revels in his ownership of Twitter even as he comprehensively runs it into the ground as a business. Now, would he be upset about such efforts being derailed as a result, or is he even slightly bothered about his website now being pa…

> He's an overgrown man-child. Damn near every mega-billionaire is, almost by definition. If the best thing you can come up with to do with money is make more of it at other people's expense, then you're not even close to what I'd call mentally mature. That doesn't stop many oligarchs from making cunning plans with layers and layers of depth, or being excellent at misdirection and media manipulation - both of which M…

Sorry, what money did billionaires took from you?

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by scns »

woah wrote: post #247
mandmandam wrote: post #126

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> she was not to blame. Fall guys bear some of the blame in the fall. My long-held [0] personal theory - borne out by everything Musk has done, and by who bought Twitter - is that it was bought to curb the possibility of large positive social movements along the lines of OWS or BLM. Enabling that can entail being useless at your supposed job, while doing your actual job (which deserves some amount of blame, from a nu…

It's conspiratorial thinking to assume that everything that happens in the world is perfectly executed by omniscient villains with 20/20 hindsight. Maybe a formerly-brilliant but drug-addled rich guy just bought a social media platform with bad fundamentals at the height of its valuation and then mismanaged it while flailing around with other ventures and political adventures. Occam's razor.

> formerly-brilliant

When?

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by thih9 »

CyberMacGyver wrote: post #4

One time they let her speak publicly it turned out to be a disaster. She never had any say and worst part is she was not even a good fall guy, it was clear who’s pulling the strings. The most immaterial and inconsequential hire ever. I love all the replies on Twitter thanking her but during her time the valuation dropped 80% and they were suing advertisers for not advertising. Remarkably inept.

> One time they let her speak publicly it turned out to be a disaster.

Context?

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by JohnMakin »

nradov wrote: post #404
falcor84 wrote: post #195

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Indeed. It was such a paradoxical situation from the start, with her both reporting to Musk as the chairman and owner, while at the same time "managing" him as the CTO. I'm surprised that the charade went on for as long as it did.

I mean I've been in a few jobs where I had to "manage" my boss in order to accomplish anything.

were those jobs fun? Certainly havent been for me
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