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Let Kids Be Loud

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Re: Let Kids Be Loud

#101
I don't really see any need to take parental advice from a blog.

Not going to give advice either as we all have our own methods, but it's more or less the opposite of what this person is saying.

Doesn't mean letting them sit mindlessly in front of screens, but screen time is okay as long as they are creating, not consuming.

That has nothing to do with their noise levels though. There's a time and place. Outside with friends, yeah sure be loud within reason. In public around strangers? You better shut the hell up.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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It's amazing how much power one person can have if we let them. I would organize people to talk to the people who made the ban and let them know you are unhappy. People pay so little attention to local politics that even an issue like this can result in someone being elected or not being reelected.

It really is crazy in the USA how much of an overreaction a single, loud, entitled, nosey, complaining neighbor can get with local government: whether it's complaining about kids making noise, complaining about kids playing alone, complaining about traffic, complaining about suspicious black people in their neighborhood, complaining about the length of their neighbor's grass or a car parked in front of their house. Y…

I think part of this is because people often don't appeal to local government unless they've got an axe to grind. Nobody goes to the city council meeting to comment on how everything is great and things are fine the way they are. So when someone shows up to complain about ice cream truck music, the people who are pleased, or at least indifferent about it, don't show up to oppose the complainer, and the signal the council members get is that it's a problem and a city ordinance or whatever is required. There are typically opportunities in the local law-making process to allow someone to oppose the complainer, and it does happen, but few will match the complainer's level of effort. Then if a law makes it on the books, local LEOs become the complainer-class's customer service representatives, and you get what you're describing.

Ultimately, local civic engagement is often what matters most to your day-to-day life, which is good. I think effective and durable self-governance must start at the local level. But we get blasted by media related to national politics at every time and season, to the point that the thought of trying to stay dialed into local government is a non-starter for many. If all the attention we can bear to allocate to politics is monopolized by the national wedge issues of the day, who will muster the volition to save the ice cream truck music?

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Our local ice cream truck plays a very annoying jingle, coupled with a woman's voice saying "Hello?" in an obnoxious way. I haven't complained, because I'm not that kind of asshole, but something about that voice clip feels like stubbing my toe over and over again. If it were a regular jingle, I'd have no problem. Perhaps one that could be turned down so you don't hear it from halfway across town.

Was it this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_BF88VYRvE The "hello" is bizarre. It's like something a weapon AI from Metal Gear Solid would do to flush out its enemy. The tune is also weird. It's not a recognizable folk or children's tune, and it sounds vaguely Japanese, like background music from a Sega Pico game. If I heard an ice cream truck playing this come down my street, I'd think I was in an episode of B…

I found the tune I linked to. It is, in fact, Japanese in origin: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KpT9mHF7xfE

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

#104

Kids are mildly annoying but generally there's a time and a place. I have kids. I love a loud house with quiet time. Loud children above age 2ish in the movie theater or restaurant are to be behaved because of the proximity of others. Babies on airplanes get a pass because iykyk

Planes are horrible without noise cancelling headphones for me, which incidentally solves the screaming kid problem too.

I got some earplugs designed for people who deal with sensory issues and they have completely transformed being on a flight from actively annoying to passively acceptable.

Fell asleep for the first time on a plane and I'm never going back.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Very based. All the people who try to claim that this is bad social skills apparently just take it from folks in the often scummy trades (i.e. mechanics, dentists, etc when I say scummy) who treat us like shit and make snide comments and backhanded compliments with impunity about us lazy computer users. This is triply true in the post AI era. They hate us cus they aint us. You hit a nerve here too.

i think you might be picking up on a level of disdain from others based on your attitude that might not be related to your profession. we are all extremely lucky to have been born at the right time with the right set of resources to have found work in the information trade. we are not better than mechanics or dentists, and we're often compensated to ridiculous degrees when compared to arguably vital roles like teache…

> i think you might be picking up on a level of disdain from others based on your attitude that might not be related to your profession.

Bravo

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Maybe because he was trying to make small talk and you insulted his profession?

Carpenters don't use many gasoline-powered tools...

Making furniture with chainsaws is a thing. Funnily enough they used to call this hacking, rather than carpentry.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

#107

Kids playing is great, but I think this article glosses over some important wrinkles. A big one I see is that some parents seem incapable of distinguishing between "there are times when it is okay for my child to play noisily" and "my child's activities and/or noise level should never be restricted". Playing in a park is great --- that's what parks are for! Playing in your yard, or an apartment courtyard or the like,…

> parents not understanding how to set boundaries for their kids

Absolutely.

Kids being loud when playing football or at the beach is fine and even expected.

Letting your kids run around the theater is not fine. You're ruining the experience for everyone.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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TBH a lot of it is also a cultural shift toward being selfish. You notice it here in the comments as well. Combined with "karen" culture, people are more empowered than ever to complain about things. They forget that when they were kids, they'd be loud, play in their neighborhood, and get up to no good :) It's a real shame, this mentality is what's moved us away from a feeling of community.

I'm not sure about this being a new thing. I also think we've gone too far with the anti-karen whiplash and think everything before that was trendy was perfect. When I was a kid that got up to no good or was just being annoyingly loud, I would hear about it. There's always been an acceptable loud, like kids running around and playfully being loud at a park or playground. Going to the same playground with a loud stere…

There's a difference between the neighbor (whom you've almost certainly met) stepping out and saying "hey stop that" or "keep it down", and karen calling the cops. That's the new thing - this insane insistence that children must be kept hidden, and that the authorities must be involved if they are playing in designated play areas, or walking around the block unsupervised, or (heaven forbid) being loud during reasonable daylight hours.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Also the camp was probably there when you moved in! So if you complain about normal camp noise you just didn't do your due diligence.

People buy cheap[er] houses near airports and then try to get airport ops changed/restricted all the time . (I agree with you, but it’s obviously a thing that people have no problem doing.)

IANAL, but there's established precedent about this, under the heading of "Coming to the nuisance."
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