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Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Maybe because he was trying to make small talk and you insulted his profession?

OP mentioned "lawnmowers, weed whackers, and gasoline powered tools". That has nothing to do with standard carpentry.

You don't think carpentry falls into the category of "professions that make loud noise outdoors"?

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP mentioned "lawnmowers, weed whackers, and gasoline powered tools". That has nothing to do with standard carpentry.

The carpenter may have thought the same sentiment is being applied to loud power tools such as table saw, jointer, router, …

In other words: GP hit a nerve.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Kids are mildly annoying but generally there's a time and a place. I have kids. I love a loud house with quiet time. Loud children above age 2ish in the movie theater or restaurant are to be behaved because of the proximity of others. Babies on airplanes get a pass because iykyk

> Babies on airplanes get a pass because iykyk

I think broadly if you’re doing something you just need to do, then a kid being a kid (particularly babies) is fine. Even if it’s annoying, that’s just life. Beyond that you need to pick your place - I’m happy taking my young kids to dinner where there’s other kids and noise, I’d not take them to a quiet tasting menu place.

Having said that, someone with an upset baby is probably having a worse time than I am and I can usually just sympathise, sometimes things are more out of someone’s control than you think.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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I agree, but with a caveat about ice cream trucks specifically. If they park in one spot and play the same jingle very loudly for hours on end (say, three to four hours in one location outside of your home), it is in fact insanely maddening.

Have you heard the ice cream trucks with a random "Hello?" thrown into songs? I don't understand the purpose. Googling brought up some people saying it goes back to the 90s, or that it's specifically a Southern California thing. Strangely enough the movie A Different Man (2024) played that exact sound during an emotional scene. That movie takes place in NYC.

I hear the Hello from our local ice cream trucks in Illinois, so not just a California thing.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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For years our neighborhood had an ice cream truck or two turn up a few days a week during summer, which we used to enjoy. This year, not a single one. I saw one of the trucks at a school fete and asked about it. The guy said one person had complained about the noise so the local council banned them after 7pm! With most of their sales falling between 6-9pm, they decided it wasn't worth it for one hour and moved on to…

It's amazing how much power one person can have if we let them. I would organize people to talk to the people who made the ban and let them know you are unhappy. People pay so little attention to local politics that even an issue like this can result in someone being elected or not being reelected.

It really is crazy in the USA how much of an overreaction a single, loud, entitled, nosey, complaining neighbor can get with local government: whether it's complaining about kids making noise, complaining about kids playing alone, complaining about traffic, complaining about suspicious black people in their neighborhood, complaining about the length of their neighbor's grass or a car parked in front of their house. You read all these stories about how one complaint resulted in the police being deployed, fines being assessed, innocent people getting in trouble, roads getting speed bumps and 5 all-way stop signs, and other crazy shit happening because some one person couldn't manage to mind their own business.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP mentioned "lawnmowers, weed whackers, and gasoline powered tools". That has nothing to do with standard carpentry.

The carpenter may have thought the same sentiment is being applied to loud power tools such as table saw, jointer, router, …

Certainly, which is why the social interaction OP described makes sense.

But OP was specific in the loud things they mentioned, and that list very much does not directly imply carpentry. So to then make it about OP's lack of tact by explicitly calling out the OP for focusing on their profession? It strains credulity as a good faith reading of OP's story.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Hm. I think I am encountering cultural differences here, again. Personally, I have a point from my grandma in my head: "If your ears are ringing from happy, playing children, that's future in your ears. That's good". For sure, within reason, but a huge ruckus in the shared backyard or playground between 08:00 or 20:00 due to kids?

That's what kids to.

I rather get worried if they abruptly stop, or start yelling differently. I don't even have kids, but I'll still take a look wether a kid of a neighbour mananged to add a temporary third joint to their arm, is bleeding a worrying amount or something like that.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP mentioned "lawnmowers, weed whackers, and gasoline powered tools". That has nothing to do with standard carpentry.

You don't think carpentry falls into the category of "professions that make loud noise outdoors"?

Sure, and if OP had said that, perhaps we'd be having a different conversation. Or none at all?

EDIT: Ah, maybe you're responding to my remark of it having "nothing to do"? If so, yeah, that's hyperbole. There are similarities if you want to look for them. But I don't think they're meaningful connections for the point of the story and OP's reaction, in my opinion.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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I'm noticing a reversal of social deference: -Then: Older generations had the cultural authority, and children were expected to conform. -Now: There’s increasing tolerance—and even privilege—granted to children (and parents), sometimes at the expense of quiet, order, or adult comfort. Hypothesis: This shift reflects a society aware of its declining birthrate, where children are becoming scarcer and more symbolically…

Sometimes there are properties about generations that get carried "alternatively" as cycles. The generation that got too much authority will give the next generation more space (louder generation). Then the loud generation will create louder generation and authority will come back, etc. It's just an example and I don't think the loudness is part of those properties but the abstract mechanism has been observed along f…

> (I think this mechanism had a proper name but I cannot find it again).

Are you referring to the Strauss–Howe generational theory?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss–Howe_generational_theo...

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