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Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by kreco »

voxleone wrote: post #11

I'm noticing a reversal of social deference: -Then: Older generations had the cultural authority, and children were expected to conform. -Now: There’s increasing tolerance—and even privilege—granted to children (and parents), sometimes at the expense of quiet, order, or adult comfort. Hypothesis: This shift reflects a society aware of its declining birthrate, where children are becoming scarcer and more symbolically…

Sometimes there are properties about generations that get carried "alternatively" as cycles.

The generation that got too much authority will give the next generation more space (louder generation). Then the loud generation will create louder generation and authority will come back, etc.

It's just an example and I don't think the loudness is part of those properties but the abstract mechanism has been observed along few generation (I think this mechanism had a proper name but I cannot find it again).

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by klank »

johnfn wrote: post #3
ysavir wrote: post #2

I live next door to a summer camp. The kind that has kids from the nearby city come for 2 weeks, sleep in bunks, play outside all day, hike, etc. A few months ago we had a carpenter doing some work on the house, and he was asking me about the camp and living so near to it. Eventually he asked "Are they loud when they play? That must be so annoying. I'd hate that." I replied "Nah, it's healthy and fun, and it doesn't…

Maybe because he was trying to make small talk and you insulted his profession?

OP mentioned "lawnmowers, weed whackers, and gasoline powered tools".

That has nothing to do with standard carpentry.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by timcobb »

pizzafeelsright wrote: post #12

Kids are mildly annoying but generally there's a time and a place. I have kids. I love a loud house with quiet time. Loud children above age 2ish in the movie theater or restaurant are to be behaved because of the proximity of others. Babies on airplanes get a pass because iykyk

This. My child can shriek at what really feels like ear-piercing frequencies and decibels.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by klank »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #17
johnfn wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe because he was trying to make small talk and you insulted his profession?

Carpenters don't use many gasoline-powered tools...

Guess we had the same thought, I posted a similar comment. It genuinely threw me for a loop cause I was trying to figure out how OP actually said anything about carpentry...

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by johnthedebs »

taylorlapeyre wrote: post #16
petercooper wrote: post #10

For years our neighborhood had an ice cream truck or two turn up a few days a week during summer, which we used to enjoy. This year, not a single one. I saw one of the trucks at a school fete and asked about it. The guy said one person had complained about the noise so the local council banned them after 7pm! With most of their sales falling between 6-9pm, they decided it wasn't worth it for one hour and moved on to…

I agree, but with a caveat about ice cream trucks specifically. If they park in one spot and play the same jingle very loudly for hours on end (say, three to four hours in one location outside of your home), it is in fact insanely maddening.

I may be more sound sensitive than most, but if I could hear it loudly for even 5-10 minutes I'd be annoyed. 3-4 hours? While I'm at home? Absolutely no way; I'd complain too.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by masfuerte »

taylorlapeyre wrote: post #16
petercooper wrote: post #10

For years our neighborhood had an ice cream truck or two turn up a few days a week during summer, which we used to enjoy. This year, not a single one. I saw one of the trucks at a school fete and asked about it. The guy said one person had complained about the noise so the local council banned them after 7pm! With most of their sales falling between 6-9pm, they decided it wasn't worth it for one hour and moved on to…

I agree, but with a caveat about ice cream trucks specifically. If they park in one spot and play the same jingle very loudly for hours on end (say, three to four hours in one location outside of your home), it is in fact insanely maddening.

The UK has rules about this:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/code-of-practice-...

Among other things, playing the jingle in the same place repeatedly is prohibited.

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by Neywiny »

pizzafeelsright wrote: post #12

Kids are mildly annoying but generally there's a time and a place. I have kids. I love a loud house with quiet time. Loud children above age 2ish in the movie theater or restaurant are to be behaved because of the proximity of others. Babies on airplanes get a pass because iykyk

One of my favorite stories is a flight with a mom and a few kids. Her oldest started shrieking at some point, likely due to the air pressure change. The mom said something like (calmly) "there's nothing anymore can do about it, so what do you want to happen?" And the kid shut up

Re: Let Kids Be Loud

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Post by toast0 »

taylorlapeyre wrote: post #16
petercooper wrote: post #10

For years our neighborhood had an ice cream truck or two turn up a few days a week during summer, which we used to enjoy. This year, not a single one. I saw one of the trucks at a school fete and asked about it. The guy said one person had complained about the noise so the local council banned them after 7pm! With most of their sales falling between 6-9pm, they decided it wasn't worth it for one hour and moved on to…

I agree, but with a caveat about ice cream trucks specifically. If they park in one spot and play the same jingle very loudly for hours on end (say, three to four hours in one location outside of your home), it is in fact insanely maddening.

At my old house, we had the best ice cream truck. Rather than playing music, it just had like a train bell. Sounded like the ice cream engine was rolling through. Ding.... ding .... ding ....
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