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Re: Google can now read your WhatsApp messages

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But isn't it quite useless to backup WA when it's all encrypted and you can't backup the key?

The backup key is shown the first time you enable encryption.

I guess they've changed this in the last 2 years or so because last time I checked they kept your key hostage and only allowed transferring all data, including the key, to a new phone.

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My favorite example of this is the thoroughly craven New York Times which puts content behind a paywall and loads it with awful ads aimed at people who’ve proven they are made of money. Contrast that certain TV dayparts saturated with subprime ads promoting Medicare scams and other offerings for people who can’t spend their own money on things except for an occasional ad for a car dealer because if people weren’t dri…

> My favorite example of this is the thoroughly craven New York Times which puts content behind a paywall and loads it with awful ads aimed at people who’ve proven they are made of money. It's almost as if you don't remember the good old days when the NY Times sold you a physical newspaper...that was (and still is) stuffed with ads.

There are two main reasons people hate modern ads. One is the annoyance/distraction, the other is all the myriad privacy issues.

Printed newspaper ads were only the former (and an easily skippable version compared to tv), while this topic is mainly about the latter.

Re: Google can now read your WhatsApp messages

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The backup key is shown the first time you enable encryption.

I guess they've changed this in the last 2 years or so because last time I checked they kept your key hostage and only allowed transferring all data, including the key, to a new phone.

I'm using this method since 2020 or even before. I've never ever enabled the backup on GDrive.

Re: Google can now read your WhatsApp messages

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I pay for 2 streaming services. They include annoying ads and the only way to avoid ads is, yeah to just pay more. No sense at all.

That makes perfect sense actually, you pay them half of the ad revenue to get rid of half the ads.

Perfect sense. Later, we pay to get ride of 90% of the ads to still have ads everywhere. Then 99% and on.

Re: Google can now read your WhatsApp messages

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The backup key is shown the first time you enable encryption.

Would you happen to have good resources detailing the process?

Pretty much what I summarized back in 2019: https://scarpino.dev/posts/automated-phone-backup-with-synct...

Nowayadays Syncthing is no more maintained due to some PlayStore drama, but Syncthing-Fork is a good replacement.

Re: Google can now read your WhatsApp messages

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Why do I keep getting ads for stuff I can't afford then?

So that when you see all that stuff you can't afford on the neighbor/coworker or your friend's place, you can be envious, so their spending was worth it. Same with all those car and watch ads in magazines. It's not like regular people are constantly looking to buy a new car. But the brand must be etched into brains. Your neighbor must be reasonably convinced that people around him are on the same page regarding the p…

This might hold water in 1980 when neighbors talked to each other and coworkers often worked in the same building and didn't wear Bluetooth earbuds, but I don't know so much about now.

Re: Google can now read your WhatsApp messages

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post #281

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I guess they've changed this in the last 2 years or so because last time I checked they kept your key hostage and only allowed transferring all data, including the key, to a new phone.

I'm using this method since 2020 or even before. I've never ever enabled the backup on GDrive.

Is your phone rooted?

Re: Google can now read your WhatsApp messages

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I’ve not read this; do you have any links?

Very well known. https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/a... https://youtu.be/elfCDnMx3Ug?si=lP9OpeU9rpO2RIla

Appreciated, thank you

Re: Google can now read your WhatsApp messages

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https://www.cultofmac.com/news/former-apple-engineer-explain...

That doesn’t provide any nontrivial insights—yes, Siri is built on keyword detection, but it’s also much older. But why are they having such a hard time creating an LLM-based Siri 2.0? Still no clue.

Perhaps cost reason? Unlike Google, Apple mostly rent their servers from the big cloud providers. Rolling this out to all Apple devices must be very expensive.
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