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No. It's well documented and reported that Apple's hold-up is because of technical incompetency.
I’ve not read this; do you have any links?
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It's not a punishment; it's entirely transactional. You make yourself less valuable to advertisers so you also make yourself less valuable to Google. Therefore Google provides you with fewer features such as a blank homepage. The era of Google providing costly features to users with no benefit to itself is coming to an end.
Except you missed that part where they said > Premium If you pay for it, you can expect to not be the product.
I think that ship sailed a few years ago. It's better for big tech if you pay and be the product so they went ahead and did that.
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#234Honestly I was surprised not to see an announcement for some kind of agentic API in Android during GIO. Think some kind of combination of content providers and a rest interface, defined by the developers of each app.
Having the system level agent needing to interface with the UI in such a messy way doesn't feel like the best way for it to accomplish its tasks.
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#235People have been clowning on Apple for being behind on the AI stuff and -- while I'd never defend how they promised a bunch of features in 2024, showed them in ads, and sold iPhones based on vaporware, but still haven't shipped most of the features -- I will say, I imagine a lot of the hold-up is because they realized how dangerous it is to start trusting AI with the sensitive data on your phone. It's probably not to…
Behind on AI? Apple was the first to intercept personal communications and create inappropriate synopses of breakup texts for its users.
I for one am glad they did this for the humor alone.
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> even if there's a 0.0001% chance the AI will send a sensitive image meant for your wife to your boss, you should probably reconsider shipping. Not the best example since Siri has been misunderstanding us for many, many years. You really meant to send that I love you to Louis coworker, right? Not to "Love"? Too late
> You really meant to send that I love you to Louis coworker, right? Not to "Love"? Too late Why make up stuff like this? Siri confirms everything that sends data.
That's not quite true, especially if you're using something like CarPlay. I have personally had this interaction:
Me: Hey Siri, text Jen [my wife] I love you.
Siri: OK, texting Johnny Chan [my ex-boss] I love you.
Me: What NO!
Johnny: Uh...
That happened. It's not something I read about or made up. It went pretty much exactly like that.
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#237These big tech companies are so frustrating. Why does every single aspect of our digital lives need to be monitored? It’s like whack a mole trying to get the most basic of privacy.
Because people collectively vote for the ad model over the subscription model.
> Because people collectively vote for the ad model over the subscription model
You make it sound as if those were the only two options available..
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#238I don't see what the problem is. If the User doesn't want Gemini to read his or her messages, the User doesn't have to partake in the sending of the messages. Simple! A User agrees to be bound by the ToS (Terms of Service) in having they do take to receive the user agreement as bound in law by Google. The User doesn't need to understand or have the right to contest the agreement or the use of any data created by a Us…
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Google sells hardware and Apple sells ads, in great quantity in both cases. Not sure "it's that simple" at all.
What percentage of revenue do ads and hardware contribute to the bottom line in Apple and Google? That answer will tell you more about leadership incentives than just hand-waving away the discussion based on the fact that big tech companies tend to dip their toes in a lot of pools.
All of you have joined an argument that is completely fictional. I am amazed that someone can still fall for “Apple is a hardware company” bait.
Both Google and Apple control enormous number of devices, the data on them (or data collected by them), their software, and their users. They make money by selling you tiny bit of access to that, directly or indirectly. End of story. Should I remind you how much being special to privacy restrictions costs Facebook?
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Google is an advertising company. Apple is a consumer hardware company. Who would you trust more with your data? It’s that simple (irrespective of the ground truth, simply referring to the optics of it).
Apple is an advertising company. https://ads.apple.com/ Generates billions for Apple and is growing rapidly, since they implemented increasingly aggressive "privacy features" to block their competitors.
Apple has an advertising business. That’s materially different from having advertising as your core revenue stream.
Likewise, Google has a consumer electronics business, but they’re not a consumer electronics company.