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LOL. Well this is how the Israelis see the BBC: https://youtu.be/gHTNuBKtzHc?si=aRYVjkzgj-U-yZIo
Things are a bit different now though.
The PR only works on very old people and very low IQ people. It's just brute force at this point. Everyone knows what they're doing. Everyone here can identify the fake comments. They think they're slick but it's just the Streisand effect at this point.
Basically, you're suggesting that propaganda only works on the feeble-minded and dumb, and "All True Scotsmen" know better than to fall for it.
Wow.
I'm starting to realize, very belatedly in life, that we suffer from an end-of-history illusion in politics and political economy. I used to think we live in a golden age because a hundred years ago, democracy broadly replaced monarchies, market economies replaced feudalism and other coercive systems, and with it went many of the old, indirect mechanisms of subjugating large populations (e.g. moral imperatives throug…
For more on this exact topic I strongly recommend Plato's "The Republic". The entire book is phenomenal, but "book" (chapter) 8 [1] is something that just completely reshaped my world view. There is an occasional reference that will make you think we've genuinely made progress, like casual acceptance of slavery, but when one reads just the political timelines and transitions he speaks of, he sounds like he's describi…
Offending or over-accusing sides of this conflict is a very asymmetric risk. Misrepresent Palestinians negatively and you may eventually get an angry, vague letter - with a quarter of signatories doing so anonymously. Misrepresent Israelis negatively and you get very powerful and well-organised protests. BBC is sadly doing the rational thing of staying clear of suggesting Israel may be doing some bad things. It is a…
The reaction is not surprise. Its disappointment. The same you might feel whenever you see a blatantly selfish act.
I still cannot get over the fact that we, in Europe, have banned RT on the grounds that it is a publication sponsored by a "foreign" government and, as such, it cannot be trusted. For one, so many publications here in Europe are financed by the local governments and we have no problem allowing them to function and act in the interest or said governments. Two, it flies in the face of an independent, free individual wh…
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This argument seems so counterproductive to me. Israel is obviously committing war crimes, attempting ethnic cleansing and any number of other horrible violations of international law and common standards. But I don't see how it is committing genocide. They are not trying to destroy the people, the genus. There are 2+ mill people in Gaza and with all those bombs they killed 100k or less? Basically that is just what u…
Here's another comment I left in response to this same person (YZF) [1] with 13 examples of Israeli MKs and other government officials declaring their intent to kill civilians. Many of these are explicit calls for genocide. That was in December 2023 , after two months, when the death toll was only around 17,000 [2]. It's now been 19 months of near constant siege; if you check Wikipedia, as of today the official count…
Does that mean that Ukrainian civilians are worse off than Palestinians? No, obviously not. Israel is guilty of many crimes and many of them are worse than some forms of genocide.
Words have meaning and you are offering the Israeli apologetics an easy way out arguing semantics and the easy way is that they are right.
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That doesn't appear to be correct. How have you reached that conclusion? Israel has not granted access to journalists to report independently since October 2023. There has been very limited escorted trips with external journalists but all tightly supervised by the IDF. Journalists already in Gaza have been killed regularly and there are credible accusations that many are deliberately targeted by the IDF.
> Israel has not granted access to journalists to report independently since October 2023. Has Russia granted access by independent journalists to russian occupied Ukraine in that time period? As far as i know the answer is no. And even on the Ukraine side there has been significant restrictions E.g. a quote from https://theintercept.com/2023/06/22/ukraine-war-journalists-... “The Ukrainian government has made it vir…
Ukraine/Russia conflict is obviously extremely dangerous but it allows far more media access, transparency, and foreign presence.
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It's not some theoretical 'divisive', you can read how these threads go yourself, including this one. The meta discussions also make these a lot worse so it's hard to blame this on some 'small number' of people.
A lot of the flagged posts look completely fine, to me. Basically the entire discussion is greyed out, which suggests a pretty intense unwillingness to talk about the subject on principles alone. I think by playing the brinksmanship card of "there can be no level-headed discussion" you inadvertently discount a lot of perfectly coherent and important digression, on both sides. If every HN thread resorted to this logic…
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That’s not “unknown”, that’s an antisemitic quote from neo-nazi Kevin Alfred Strom.
Do any of those qualifiers make it less true?
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Oh look the Israeli tech workers are online. Everyone knows it's a genocide. "Gaza victim narrative", the absolute state of you.
Care to refute with facts any of my points?
Or all you can do is drop words and call names?
Everyone knows this is the only tactics of pro-xamas lunatics - just to scream loud. No facts, no logic, no answers to uncomfortable questions.