'Lulzsec hacker' latest to be arrested in US
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#2"He is also accused of using a proxy server to further avoid detection."
Accused seems like an odd word to use here. In UK and US jurisdictions the fact that you used a proxy to commit a crime does not make any difference to the scale of the crime does it?
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#3"He is also accused of using a proxy server to further avoid detection." Accused seems like an odd word to use here. In UK and US jurisdictions the fact that you used a proxy to commit a crime does not make any difference to the scale of the crime does it?
I would hope not, but I suppose it would be similar to using a police scanner while evading.
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#4"He is also accused of using a proxy server to further avoid detection." Accused seems like an odd word to use here. In UK and US jurisdictions the fact that you used a proxy to commit a crime does not make any difference to the scale of the crime does it?
It might be similar to the difference between burglary and aggravated burglary - the method used to commit the crime has a bearing on how seriously it is punished.
I imagine it could have some implications when discussing the level of pre-mediatation as well. For example, if you were doing the tech equivalent of a 'crime of passion', then having set up multiple layers of proxy servers will undo your 'spur of the moment' defense.
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#5"He is also accused of using a proxy server to further avoid detection." Accused seems like an odd word to use here. In UK and US jurisdictions the fact that you used a proxy to commit a crime does not make any difference to the scale of the crime does it?
Maybe he wasn't authorized to access this proxy server.
Or using a proxy to browse the web is considered illegal ? After all, in some countries it is forbidden to go in the street and wear a mask (France). Using a proxy can be considered the same :)
Then, sometimes, journalists use terms they shouldn't. Maybe that wasn't a "real" proxy (according to the definition of a proxy), but a simple "bounce" (a hacked box/server somewhere), in which case it is illegal (for example he hacks a-company.com, installs a socks server and tunnels his traffic to this socks server.)
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#6Is it social engineering by Sabu that lead to all the arrests?
Re: 'Lulzsec hacker' latest to be arrested in US
#715 years in prison for a simple SQL injection and publishing of data?
What else gets you 15 years in the UK? - Repeated rape of same victim over a course of time or rape involving multiple victims : 15 years custody - Rape accompanied by abduction: 11 - 17 years - Murder if aged 18 or over at date of offence: minimum term of 15 years
Right. Leaking data is punishable at the same level as rape and murder. Great country.
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#815 years in prison for a simple SQL injection and publishing of data? What else gets you 15 years in the UK? - Repeated rape of same victim over a course of time or rape involving multiple victims : 15 years custody - Rape accompanied by abduction: 11 - 17 years - Murder if aged 18 or over at date of offence: minimum term of 15 years Right. Leaking data is punishable at the same level as rape and murder. Great countr…
Two things:
1) As stated in the first sentence and the title, he's been arrested in the US which is where he'll face charges and up to 15 years in prison, not the UK. Just because it's reported on a UK website that doesn't mean it happened in the UK. Unlike some US news outlets, the BBC sometimes has a look at what's going on in the rest of the world.
2) What you're doing here is comparing the maximum possible sentence (15 years) with I have no idea what but I suspect specific sentences (possibly time served?) that may have been handed out for the crimes in question without listing any detail that might put that into context.
If the 15 years were a UK sentence the comparison would be that the maximum sentence for rape in the UK is life and the maximum sentence for murder in the UK is life (in both cases meaning 15 - 40 years (Scotland) or 15 - 35 years (the rest of the UK)).
While in reality this may not the the actual sentence or the time served, until we have a conviction and an actual sentence, these are the only valid comparisons we can make.
So, great country? Maybe not, but you make no good argument as to why not.
Re: 'Lulzsec hacker' latest to be arrested in US
#915 years in prison for a simple SQL injection and publishing of data? What else gets you 15 years in the UK? - Repeated rape of same victim over a course of time or rape involving multiple victims : 15 years custody - Rape accompanied by abduction: 11 - 17 years - Murder if aged 18 or over at date of offence: minimum term of 15 years Right. Leaking data is punishable at the same level as rape and murder. Great countr…
Two things: 1) As stated in the first sentence and the title, he's been arrested in the US which is where he'll face charges and up to 15 years in prison, not the UK. Just because it's reported on a UK website that doesn't mean it happened in the UK. Unlike some US news outlets, the BBC sometimes has a look at what's going on in the rest of the world. 2) What you're doing here is comparing the maximum possible senten…
Ah, I stand corrected, indeed it does. Why in God's name would ANY Lulsec memeber EVER travel to the US after they attacked a big corporation is beyond me...
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#10SQL Injection is so old, it should count as an open door. That is, you keep your possessions in a room with the door open and nobody guarding it.