Market cap means nothing though. Facebook's size measured this way was bigger than all the publicly listed supermarkets in the UK combined, yet Facebook makes less profit than each of them individually.
Apple is bigger by market cap than Microsoft, Google, Amazon & Facebook combined
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Re: Apple is bigger by market cap than Microsoft, Google, Amazon & Facebook combined
#12Can anybody say "bubble"?
It's clear to most people Apple isn't worth the money the stock markets assign it - well over half their cap is investment in the brand.
If they ever do anything to damage that or if they do something even remotely wrong, a whole lot of people are going to lose a whole lot of money.
Re: Apple is bigger by market cap than Microsoft, Google, Amazon & Facebook combined
#13Seriously, I'm tired of all this BS. What matters for a real company is how they stand to innovate, not how much they make. Right now, Apple's strategy seems to be more of 'litigate' than innovate. What's the use of all this market cap by exercising unfair, unjust monopoly by abusing the patent system with trivial, BS patents? I know a lot of companies that don't make a lot of money but strive for true innovation (Eg…
first of all I don't think its wise to really say demeaning words about some profession (its the oldest profession and still running many people's house).
secondly, there is nothing like an obvious patent, if a patent is defensible then its very much obvious that it wasn't obvious. Remember, Apple hasn't won a case against a small startup. Samsung in itself is a pretty big company and has all the resources to fight Apple and hence I think its more just.
that being said, I dont think apple is all rosy, they do bad things but they also make really awesome product. If it were not for apple, you would still be typing on a physical keyboard on your cell phone.
Re: Apple is bigger by market cap than Microsoft, Google, Amazon & Facebook combined
#14Market cap means nothing though. Facebook's size measured this way was bigger than all the publicly listed supermarkets in the UK combined, yet Facebook makes less profit than each of them individually.
I am pretty sure the post would be true if measured on profits, roughly.
Re: Apple is bigger by market cap than Microsoft, Google, Amazon & Facebook combined
#15Seriously, I'm tired of all this BS. What matters for a real company is how they stand to innovate, not how much they make. Right now, Apple's strategy seems to be more of 'litigate' than innovate. What's the use of all this market cap by exercising unfair, unjust monopoly by abusing the patent system with trivial, BS patents? I know a lot of companies that don't make a lot of money but strive for true innovation (Eg…
Not innovating?
This year they've already delivered the new iPad, the retina MacBook Pro, and are set to announce and deliver the iPhone 5, the iPad mini, possibly new iMacs and a TV.
And the last five years they created or helped create: The Smartphone market The Tablet market The App market The Locationbased market
Re: Apple is bigger by market cap than Microsoft, Google, Amazon & Facebook combined
#16Seriously, I'm tired of all this BS. What matters for a real company is how they stand to innovate, not how much they make. Right now, Apple's strategy seems to be more of 'litigate' than innovate. What's the use of all this market cap by exercising unfair, unjust monopoly by abusing the patent system with trivial, BS patents? I know a lot of companies that don't make a lot of money but strive for true innovation (Eg…
first of all I don't think its wise to really say demeaning words about some profession (its the oldest profession and still running many people's house). secondly, there is nothing like an obvious patent, if a patent is defensible then its very much obvious that it wasn't obvious. Remember, Apple hasn't won a case against a small startup. Samsung in itself is a pretty big company and has all the resources to fight A…
> If it were not for apple, you would still be typing on a physical keyboard on your cell phone.
No I wouldn't.
Re: Apple is bigger by market cap than Microsoft, Google, Amazon & Facebook combined
#17Let's say one could choose only one of the groups: either have Apple while MS, Google, Amazon, and FB does not exists, or there's no Apple and the rest is there. Would anyone really choose the first scenario?
It used to be people hated Microsoft, these days it's Apple.
Interesting world.
I fully expect Microsoft to follow the IBM model and focus on services. I'm sure they'll still make an OS and hardware - IBM does too. But their money will come from services.
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#18Seriously, I'm tired of all this BS. What matters for a real company is how they stand to innovate, not how much they make. Right now, Apple's strategy seems to be more of 'litigate' than innovate. What's the use of all this market cap by exercising unfair, unjust monopoly by abusing the patent system with trivial, BS patents? I know a lot of companies that don't make a lot of money but strive for true innovation (Eg…
first of all I don't think its wise to really say demeaning words about some profession (its the oldest profession and still running many people's house). secondly, there is nothing like an obvious patent, if a patent is defensible then its very much obvious that it wasn't obvious. Remember, Apple hasn't won a case against a small startup. Samsung in itself is a pretty big company and has all the resources to fight A…
>If it were not for apple...
If it were not for Apple, we would be seeing better phones than the iPhone with amazing designs (read as 'rounded corners'), without any limited functionality (Eg. Universal Search). I do not support Samsung completely, because I do believe they DID cross a line by making their phones resemble too similar to the iPhone.
But I don't agree with Apple winning based on a bunch of BS patents can be claimed as innovative. And I don't agree with Apple saving the market by making really awesome products. Nor do I agree with these patents being non-obvious. Rounded corners, slide to unlock, bounce-back...seriously?
If it wasn't for Apple, eventually someone would have made it, because the technology was already available before and it wasn't like Apple invented them all.
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Re: Apple is bigger by market cap than Microsoft, Google, Amazon & Facebook combined
#19Seriously, I'm tired of all this BS. What matters for a real company is how they stand to innovate, not how much they make. Right now, Apple's strategy seems to be more of 'litigate' than innovate. What's the use of all this market cap by exercising unfair, unjust monopoly by abusing the patent system with trivial, BS patents? I know a lot of companies that don't make a lot of money but strive for true innovation (Eg…
Not innovating? This year they've already delivered the new iPad, the retina MacBook Pro, and are set to announce and deliver the iPhone 5, the iPad mini, possibly new iMacs and a TV. And the last five years they created or helped create: The Smartphone market The Tablet market The App market The Locationbased market
EDIT: I see nothing innovative with the list of devices you mentioned - 'The new iPad', 'Retina MBP', etc. They are just iterations of previous devices with a higher resolution. The iPad mini is old news, because it is just following the path the Nexus 7 has set. Nothing innovative here.
Many talk about fragmentation on Android all the time, just wait and see how much fragmentation, nightmares and hell this Retina resolution would cause to designers.
Re: Apple is bigger by market cap than Microsoft, Google, Amazon & Facebook combined
#20Seriously, I'm tired of all this BS. What matters for a real company is how they stand to innovate, not how much they make. Right now, Apple's strategy seems to be more of 'litigate' than innovate. What's the use of all this market cap by exercising unfair, unjust monopoly by abusing the patent system with trivial, BS patents? I know a lot of companies that don't make a lot of money but strive for true innovation (Eg…
first of all I don't think its wise to really say demeaning words about some profession (its the oldest profession and still running many people's house). secondly, there is nothing like an obvious patent, if a patent is defensible then its very much obvious that it wasn't obvious. Remember, Apple hasn't won a case against a small startup. Samsung in itself is a pretty big company and has all the resources to fight A…
How can you actually try to defend prostitution?
Would you defend murder and rape too? Both are crimes, both are immoral, both are as old as hills.