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Incapacitating Google Tag Manager (2022)

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Re: Incapacitating Google Tag Manager (2022)

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If you block Google Tag Manager, you probably also want to block Yandex Metrics and Cloudflare Insights.

I think it's hard to block Cloudflare Insights because most of the data is collected server-side.

You can use something like this maybe https://adnauseam.io/

Re: Incapacitating Google Tag Manager (2022)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since installing it on firefox on this computer (18 months ago or so) Ad Nauseam has clicked ~$38,000 worth of ads, that i never saw. Between this and "track me not" i've been fighting back against ads and connecting my "profile" with any habits since 2016 or so. I should also note i have pihole and my own DNS server upstream, so that's thiry-eight grand in ad clicks that got through blacklists . https://www.trackmen…

[Preface: I hate ads, I love uBlock origin, I use pihole, I'm a proponent of ad blockers] I manage a Google Ads account with a $500,000 budget. That budget is spent on a mix of display ads, google search, and youtube ads. If I knew that 10% of our budget was wasted on bot clicks, there's nothing I can do as an advertiser. We can't stop advertising... we want to grow our business and advertising is how you get your na…

I think the idea is that hurting entities who are pushing out a lot of ads is a good thing.

Re: Incapacitating Google Tag Manager (2022)

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since installing it on firefox on this computer (18 months ago or so) Ad Nauseam has clicked ~$38,000 worth of ads, that i never saw. Between this and "track me not" i've been fighting back against ads and connecting my "profile" with any habits since 2016 or so. I should also note i have pihole and my own DNS server upstream, so that's thiry-eight grand in ad clicks that got through blacklists . https://www.trackmen…

[Preface: I hate ads, I love uBlock origin, I use pihole, I'm a proponent of ad blockers] I manage a Google Ads account with a $500,000 budget. That budget is spent on a mix of display ads, google search, and youtube ads. If I knew that 10% of our budget was wasted on bot clicks, there's nothing I can do as an advertiser. We can't stop advertising... we want to grow our business and advertising is how you get your na…

Ads hurt people by stealing attention and manipulating spending intentions. Being exposed to a firehose of them makes us more stupid and poorer.

Re: Incapacitating Google Tag Manager (2022)

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I use: VPN so constantly changing ip. Tor browser for everyday browsing (has no script preinstalled). So onion provides double Vpn. Regularly closed down so history cleared. Safari in private mode and lockdown mode for when tor won't work (tor ip blocked/hd video that is too slow to stream on tor). Safari Isolation in private mode is excellent, you can use two tabs with, say emails, and neither will know other is log…

> Tor browser for everyday browsing Do you just... log back in to Hacker News every day? I downloaded the Mullvad browser (basically Tor without the onion protocol part) but having no way to save passwords ended up making it unusable for me

As said, use a password manager.

Also regularly export your passwords from your password manager, either to another password manager or encrypt and store.So if the password manager has issues it won't leave you stuck.

Re: Incapacitating Google Tag Manager (2022)

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Ublock origin author - Gorhill - 2022 response: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30415234

Ublock origin wiki referencing a method to block, unsure how effective it is(seems to be based on the first link): https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Static-filter-syntax#...

"*$1p,strict3p,script,header=via:1.1 google"

Perhaps some filter in your list already utilizing this but I'm unable to verify

Re: Incapacitating Google Tag Manager (2022)

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I have an idea that another way of preventing being tracked is just massively spamming trash in the data layer object, pushing thousands of dollars worth of purchase events and such, pushing randomly generated user details and other such events. Perhaps by doing this your real data will be hard to filter out. A side effect is also that data becomes unreliable overall, helping less privacy aware people in the process.

I have a quite common name in my country and snatched firstname.lastname@gmail.com for that name many years ago. Many use it by accident somehow when registering for things. Possibly (hopefully!) half of all leaks containing my email address are for other people. Never thought of what it might do for ad profiling, but hopefully it is adding at least some noise to it.

Maybe I could manually improve a bit on that by deliberately register myself for various random services and just clicking around a bit to pretend I am interested in things I have no interest in. On the other hand with 20 years of tracking I think Google has all my interests and habits nailed down anyway.

Re: Incapacitating Google Tag Manager (2022)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

[Preface: I hate ads, I love uBlock origin, I use pihole, I'm a proponent of ad blockers] I manage a Google Ads account with a $500,000 budget. That budget is spent on a mix of display ads, google search, and youtube ads. If I knew that 10% of our budget was wasted on bot clicks, there's nothing I can do as an advertiser. We can't stop advertising... we want to grow our business and advertising is how you get your na…

This is great. I seek out competitors to the companies that advertise so I can get the product without rewarding advertisers. Man scape? Nah, generic women's razers. Pcbway? Nope. JLCPCB. Screw your ads. Find a better way.

  > JLCPCB
How are they?

Re: Incapacitating Google Tag Manager (2022)

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I have an idea that another way of preventing being tracked is just massively spamming trash in the data layer object, pushing thousands of dollars worth of purchase events and such, pushing randomly generated user details and other such events. Perhaps by doing this your real data will be hard to filter out. A side effect is also that data becomes unreliable overall, helping less privacy aware people in the process.

You're talking about Adnauseum https://adnauseam.io/ Chrome banned it from their add on store but it can still be installed manually

Would be nice to have something similar to this for Mixpanel and Amplitude

Re: Incapacitating Google Tag Manager (2022)

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[Preface: I hate ads, I love uBlock origin, I use pihole, I'm a proponent of ad blockers] I manage a Google Ads account with a $500,000 budget. That budget is spent on a mix of display ads, google search, and youtube ads. If I knew that 10% of our budget was wasted on bot clicks, there's nothing I can do as an advertiser. We can't stop advertising... we want to grow our business and advertising is how you get your na…

> I really don't understand what Ad Nauseam is trying to achieve. It honestly seems like it benefits Google more than it hurts them. Google is part of the problem, but they're neither the only ones nor best to target through bottom-up approaches. > It directly hurts advertisers, but not enough that it would stop anyone from advertising. You know the saying about XML - if it doesn't solve the problem, you are not usin…

> Which is why the pressure needs to go up until ~everyone wants change.

I think the point made is that this adds no extra pressure.

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