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Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by dheerajvs » Fri, Jul 04, 2025, 10:49 AM UTC

koffiezet wrote: post #196

dheerajvs wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an interviewer, I'm seeing a huge increase in proportion of candidates cheating surreptitiously during video interviews. And it's becoming difficult to suspect any wrong-doing unless you're very watchful by looking for academic responses to questions. Why would anyone encourage building such a tool, I can't fathom.

When interviewers use LLM gargbage to filter out participants, expect candidates to do the same.

I don't use LLMs to filter out participants and I expect candidates not to use LLMs to cheat.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by oaiey » Fri, Jul 04, 2025, 10:52 AM UTC

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #189

oaiey wrote: post #162

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I do not know what is wrong with software engineers. This is theft (or whatever the lawyers says in the IP law) and now stating: Ooops we did not know, our bad, we keep it till we have found a replacement. Mistakes happen also in real life, but libraries is a common thing, like cars standing on a street. You do not accidently steal a car. Software Engineering is more than coding. Basic license management incl. librar…

> Basic license management incl. library vetting is part of it. This depends on whether you consider Compliance to be part of software engineering or a separate discipline. At least in most companies the compliance department is different from the software development/IT department, because the necessary skills are very different and barely transfer.

I also have a different department for architecture or testing. Still part of software engineering.

GPL vs. MIT is basics!

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by singpolyma3 » Fri, Jul 04, 2025, 10:53 AM UTC

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #215

anonym29 wrote: post #211

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Welcome to human nature. We are a species that pathologically wants what we do not have, and often neglects to practice the golden rule.

> often neglects to practice the golden rule There exist people who are anti-copyright, which has the implications that such people are (by the golden rule) also basically fine with having their works copied.

Sure but here they weren't paying the work. Copying is encouraged. They were pretending they made it and owned it. That is not.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by dheerajvs » Fri, Jul 04, 2025, 10:53 AM UTC

giantg2 wrote: post #235

dheerajvs wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an interviewer, I'm seeing a huge increase in proportion of candidates cheating surreptitiously during video interviews. And it's becoming difficult to suspect any wrong-doing unless you're very watchful by looking for academic responses to questions. Why would anyone encourage building such a tool, I can't fathom.

I won't use it, but I do see it as somewhat symmetric. If the interviewers are using AI or expecting you to use AI for these tasks once you're on the job, then it doesn't seem completely immoral.

That's assuming all interviewers are using AI. And if it's not immoral, why do it surreptitiously?

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by j1elo » Fri, Jul 04, 2025, 10:55 AM UTC

"Since this was our first tax reporting, we didn’t realize at first that we're supposed to declare our income. We’ve now revised it."

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by LudwigNagasena » Fri, Jul 04, 2025, 10:55 AM UTC

seunosewa wrote: post #226

Havoc wrote: post #220

To a casual outside observer the quality of the companies YC invests in seems to have absolutely cratered. Have they just given up on vetting and switched to a throw money at everything approach?

My feeling is that they are investing in founders who they find impressive who are working in AI. Not so much in the uniqueness of their ideas.

They expect you to come up with an idea or a business and explain it to them and show your progress. Of course one may say that those things reflect you as a person but so does stealing and relicensing code.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by singpolyma3 » Fri, Jul 04, 2025, 10:56 AM UTC

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #222

WolfOliver wrote: post #192

An app which is build for cheating complains about cheating ...

The founders who built Glass don't complain about cheating. Rather, the developer of https://github.com/sohzm/cheating-daddy complained of copyright infringement of his code by the developers of Glass.

Worse than copyright infringement, they pretended the code was theirs

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by LucidLynx » Fri, Jul 04, 2025, 10:57 AM UTC

Is it me, or "founders" are actually FREAKING dumb?

Why people continue to give them money, and praise their "work"?

Instead of making (indirect) ads for them we should publish their name and the company's name into shame publicly, and let their reputation die slowly...

I have no respect for them, and you should not too (if you care about justice).

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by ohdeargodno » Fri, Jul 04, 2025, 10:57 AM UTC

tomhow wrote: post #241

ohdeargodno wrote: post #228

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> Playing with daddy's money Personal attacks like this are not ok. Sure, criticize their actions, but don't parlay that into this kind of personal swipe at the individuals and their families; that's when the line is crossed from valid critique of actions to nasty mob pile-on, and that's never ok here. Not that it should matter but as far as I can tell, the Pickle founder/CEO grew up and studied in Korea, and we have…

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Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by bayindirh » Fri, Jul 04, 2025, 11:00 AM UTC

HacklesRaised wrote: post #160

One starts to wonder whether the LLM vendors laissez-faire approach to the legality of ingesting copyrighted / licensed material will start to infect the industry in general?

I, for one, deserted GitHub, and do not use for anything else personal anymore. I'm not against permissive licensing, but all my code will be (A)GPLv3 or later.

A particular project I'm working on will be on a private Git server until I complete and open it as a package. Even after that, I might keep the development closed and release tarballs only (aka Catherdral Model).

All code I write is also AI-Free.

It won't be possible to trust in people for a long time, it seems.