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CoMaps: New OSM based navigation app

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Re: CoMaps: New OSM based navigation app

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Their repository description: > The main code repository of CoMaps, a community-led fork of Organic Maps. Reinforced with commitment to transparency, privacy and being not-for-profit.

Does it have some other "actual" featuges compared to OrganicMaps?

Sure! Check here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44455300

Re: CoMaps: New OSM based navigation app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> For bus lanes, I just checked and they're all correctly marked in my city. Seems they are missing in yours, sadly. Fortunately OSM can be edited by users. Updating the lanes in your city is something you can do. I'm not saying it's easy, just that it's possible.

I tried to get into OSM a few years ago, and the barrier to entry seemed a bit high. Maybe I'll try again. For all I know, the lanes are properly marked, it's just a routing issue. In Israel, the bus lanes are a bit odd. A lane can be a turn-only lane for cars and straight-only for busses. So, it's a bit complicated. Even Google Maps can't handle it.

> A lane can be a turn-only lane for cars and straight-only for busses.

That seems pretty normal, there's lots of this around Europe. Apparently overlooked by navi/maps designers overall.

Re: CoMaps: New OSM based navigation app

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People asking if there's differences to Organic Maps, yes there are E.g., on iOS CoMaps has fixed several bugs present in OM like: * CarPlay Interface not resetting upon arrival at destination * Search Results still highlighted after route creation * Button overlaying during routing on small iPhone I have improved the consistency of paths and footway rendering

Talking about the app features, here are some of the bigger / easier to notice differences: - added automatic backups for bookmarks and tracks - added 100m-step altitude isolines to all regions that had worse or no isolines - a big rework of the map colors - lighter, warmer, friendlier - add a setting to customize the leftmost button or hide it - removed semi-transparent background in Subway layer And there is a bunc…

Why all of these features weren't contributed to Organic Maps instead of creating a fork?

Re: CoMaps: New OSM based navigation app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> For bus lanes, I just checked and they're all correctly marked in my city. Seems they are missing in yours, sadly. Fortunately OSM can be edited by users. Updating the lanes in your city is something you can do. I'm not saying it's easy, just that it's possible.

I tried to get into OSM a few years ago, and the barrier to entry seemed a bit high. Maybe I'll try again. For all I know, the lanes are properly marked, it's just a routing issue. In Israel, the bus lanes are a bit odd. A lane can be a turn-only lane for cars and straight-only for busses. So, it's a bit complicated. Even Google Maps can't handle it.

You can get in touch with the Israeli community here, maybe they know an app that works, or if there's something that can be done with the current tagging: https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/il/50

Maybe the bug you're seeing is this? https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/510

Re: CoMaps: New OSM based navigation app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Talking about the app features, here are some of the bigger / easier to notice differences: - added automatic backups for bookmarks and tracks - added 100m-step altitude isolines to all regions that had worse or no isolines - a big rework of the map colors - lighter, warmer, friendlier - add a setting to customize the leftmost button or hide it - removed semi-transparent background in Subway layer And there is a bunc…

Why all of these features weren't contributed to Organic Maps instead of creating a fork?

You can read the reasons for the fork here: https://www.comaps.app/news/2025-04-16/1/

Re: CoMaps: New OSM based navigation app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Talking about the app features, here are some of the bigger / easier to notice differences: - added automatic backups for bookmarks and tracks - added 100m-step altitude isolines to all regions that had worse or no isolines - a big rework of the map colors - lighter, warmer, friendlier - add a setting to customize the leftmost button or hide it - removed semi-transparent background in Subway layer And there is a bunc…

Why all of these features weren't contributed to Organic Maps instead of creating a fork?

https://news.itsfoss.com/organic-maps-fork-comaps/

Re: CoMaps: New OSM based navigation app

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People asking if there's differences to Organic Maps, yes there are E.g., on iOS CoMaps has fixed several bugs present in OM like: * CarPlay Interface not resetting upon arrival at destination * Search Results still highlighted after route creation * Button overlaying during routing on small iPhone I have improved the consistency of paths and footway rendering

The features here (and listed below) are good features, but I wonder if this isn't just "different features". In the same time, has Organic Maps added different features that you don't have? Or have they made fewer features because developer energy has shifted to CoMaps?

I.e. is it that Organic Maps just have different priorities than you do? Or is it that Organic Maps have been holding back these good features for no good reason?

Re: CoMaps: New OSM based navigation app

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The biggest thing keeping me from using any open source routing or even Google Maps is that here in Israel there are roads that are illegal to drive on either because they're access to PA territory or they're bus/taxi only. No application other than Waze avoids these, so I'm stuck using Waze. I just checked this, and to get to a building down the street from me, it wants me to YOLO myself through the bus lanes.

> is that here in Israel there are roads that are illegal to drive on either because they're access to PA territory or they're bus/taxi only.

You can fix those aspects yourself in OpenStreetMap (OSM), with the result that once your updates flow into the routers/apps that use OSM (OsmAnd, maps.me, etc.) that those tools should stop attempting to route you over those roads.

Re: CoMaps: New OSM based navigation app

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Hopefully they will fix my biggest pet peeve with Organic Maps - jerky navigation movement (to the point of it being actively distracting and problematic in a car).

It happens because they don't apply any movement filters/momentum to the navigation, which means that the navigation marker jerks from one GPS update to the other and is constantly behind the actual location of the vehicle. Which makes it extremely easy to miss a turn.

The authors of Organic keep rejecting implementation of a filter/momentum (just like any other nav app) with "it's less accurate"... which is kind of ridiculous if you think about it.

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