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The Untouchable Economy: Why Americans Are Turning Against 'Stuff'

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This resonates with me. Frankly I'm tired of owning "stuff". All I really need is a place to sleep, a laptop, a tablet, a phone and clothes. I'll get limited furniture but it'll be cheap Ikea stuff that I'll simply dispose of when I move. I don't own a TV. In fact I doubt I'll ever own a TV again. Nor do I own a big sound system. I do own a table and chairs, a sofa and a desk. All but the desk I regret. One thing tha…

I'm pretty sure that when Palahniuk wrote that, his identification for 'stuff' included digital content and other non-tangibles. Great, you don't have a lot of stuff. how would you feel if your gmail went away tomorrow? bad? looks like stuff still owns you!

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A good bed? I'm not aware of any that you can pack in a car that won't give you back problems in the long term.

A sleeping bag and a foam roll. Seriously. I did this for years and was fine. Probably just an IME, but I've found that back problems are an issue of being out of shape (low muscle mass) or over usage (bad job, poor ergonomics, etc) and never caused from not sleeping on a bed. If I lift weights or otherwise in shape I can sleep on anything. When I'm out of shape I tend to get back pains from just about anything that…

What do you do when you have a lady friend over?

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Cool stuff. My problem is, I don't really have more wall space for shelves. The two remaining walls that would make good candidates for shelving, I use for hanging whiteboards. :-) That said, I could get rid of some of these books... especially older tech books that aren't relevant, either because they're plain out of date, or because I've made a conscious decision to move away from that technology, or both. For exam…

May I ask what whiteboards are you hanging?

May I ask what whiteboards are you hanging?

Just generic ones from Office Depot. I have four big ones (3x6 or so?) and one smaller one hanging in my living room (which is more of an office for the startup right now, than it is a "living room").

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"But Millennials may approach the decision about how many children to have, and how to educate them, with more of a business approach. Will this cause the number of children to rise or to fall? Children are a heavy investment, especially given the cost of college these days..."

Children...an investment? Oh, I lol'd. Children aren't an investment, unless by investment you mean 'cash bonfire.'

Re: The Untouchable Economy: Why Americans Are Turning Against 'Stuff'

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This resonates with me. Frankly I'm tired of owning "stuff". All I really need is a place to sleep, a laptop, a tablet, a phone and clothes. I'll get limited furniture but it'll be cheap Ikea stuff that I'll simply dispose of when I move. I don't own a TV. In fact I doubt I'll ever own a TV again. Nor do I own a big sound system. I do own a table and chairs, a sofa and a desk. All but the desk I regret. One thing tha…

> It typically starts out "I/we need a 2 bedroom apartment". Reasons vary. Sometimes it's for their "stuff". Sometimes they "need" an office. Sometimes they've simply never had smaller.

Sometimes I work until midnight, while my partner likes to sleep without hearing me, or seeing the light from my monitor.

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This resonates with me. Frankly I'm tired of owning "stuff". All I really need is a place to sleep, a laptop, a tablet, a phone and clothes. I'll get limited furniture but it'll be cheap Ikea stuff that I'll simply dispose of when I move. I don't own a TV. In fact I doubt I'll ever own a TV again. Nor do I own a big sound system. I do own a table and chairs, a sofa and a desk. All but the desk I regret. One thing tha…

Ikea furniture sucks. If it's what you can afford, well, it's still functional- but if you can afford better, I've come to feel like good furniture is worth some extra stress.

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This resonates with me. Frankly I'm tired of owning "stuff". All I really need is a place to sleep, a laptop, a tablet, a phone and clothes. I'll get limited furniture but it'll be cheap Ikea stuff that I'll simply dispose of when I move. I don't own a TV. In fact I doubt I'll ever own a TV again. Nor do I own a big sound system. I do own a table and chairs, a sofa and a desk. All but the desk I regret. One thing tha…

For most of my life, I've been able to fit all of my possessions within my car, and move in one trip. Recently I've upgraded from a 20" monitor to a 46" tv. This means I'm up to 2 car trips. It's frustrating to move entirely into a new place, and find that the place looks empty and plain because you simply don't have enough objects to fill the place. In a way, it reminds me of dieting: I hate having to eat like an an…

Wouldn't it be possible to buy a bigger apartment, create two smaller ones from it, and then sell one of the two?

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May I ask what whiteboards are you hanging?

May I ask what whiteboards are you hanging? Just generic ones from Office Depot. I have four big ones (3x6 or so?) and one smaller one hanging in my living room (which is more of an office for the startup right now, than it is a "living room").

Thank you. I have whiteyboard decals on my wall and it isn't working out so well, so I'm kinda thinking of switching to something else.

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I hate stuff too, but fell in love with a woman that, while she isn't a materialist, tends to want the typical amount of stuff. And now that we own a home, presents tend to be tools, and they are sometimes used, sometimes not. Frankly, I'd love to cast it off and throw it away, but I'm afraid she'd not let me, lol. I love her more than I hate stuff though.

I was living in a very, very small apartment until I got a partner. Now we are married, we have a small house with very little storage room for stuff. A slightly larger house would be nice, not for stuff, but so we could work from home without interruptions, entertain our large family and have a bit more room for tools and pets.

Our house isn't huge, something like 1300 sqft. We don't live in BFE, but it is suburbs. My dream has always been more urban, small space but within walking distance to some cool places and public transit for those that are further away.

Having an office is nice though, I don't think I could concentrate if I had to work on stuff in the living room while she watched Glee.

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A sleeping bag and a foam roll. Seriously. I did this for years and was fine. Probably just an IME, but I've found that back problems are an issue of being out of shape (low muscle mass) or over usage (bad job, poor ergonomics, etc) and never caused from not sleeping on a bed. If I lift weights or otherwise in shape I can sleep on anything. When I'm out of shape I tend to get back pains from just about anything that…

What do you do when you have a lady friend over?

I actually had two camping bags and a large roll of foam just for those situations. Usually never had any problems, though I do recall spending more nights at their place than them at mine.

I went to college late (~26 y/o) and by that time I had gotten a bed from somewhere (gift from parents I think). I'm married with a house now and don't live as minimally now, unfortunately.

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