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Re: How long it takes to know if a job is right for you or not

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Post by n4r9 » Thu, Jun 26, 2025, 9:24 PM UTC

throwanem wrote: post #230

n4r9 wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people you refer to as "devotees" who "can't stand hearing a bad word" strike me as ordinary users whose personal experience simply contradicts your claims. The absolutism of those claims played a part. If you see someone say "X is impossible", but you have personally seen X occur, it's natural to want to correct the record.

That isn't really an answer, or not one at least on point. You're saying my approach made people angry and they responded in a way influenced by that anger, again as though I were unaware. But I have been having this conversation for well over a decade now, nearly 15 years. You will forgive me if I do not always behave as though it were my first time, especially when disingenuousness on the part of my interlocutors h…

So... what are you trying to gain by using hyperbole?

Re: How long it takes to know if a job is right for you or not

#232

Post by throwanem » Fri, Jun 27, 2025, 2:13 PM UTC

n4r9 wrote: post #231

throwanem wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn't really an answer, or not one at least on point. You're saying my approach made people angry and they responded in a way influenced by that anger, again as though I were unaware. But I have been having this conversation for well over a decade now, nearly 15 years. You will forgive me if I do not always behave as though it were my first time, especially when disingenuousness on the part of my interlocutors h…

So... what are you trying to gain by using hyperbole?

What would you like to suggest I would gain by acting otherwise? No comments on this website are private, other perhaps than in orange-name backchannels, and none here are flagged. Those provisos notwithstanding you can see exactly the same discussion I can, and if you felt you could argue other than that it has progressed exactly as I describe, I assume by now you would have essayed the attempt.

Even where it would have offered an advantageous contrast to my supposed hyperbole et al, where do you see sweet reason having told? - when, that is, it comes to the substantive technical critiques of the sort I'm meant to be taken at fault for declining to provide. Those critiques are still being ignored, while you sit here days later still not yet disabused of the idea you are equipped to bandy words with me.

I am not, in short, arguing here with even remotely serious people, and I show them the treatment condign upon their behavior. To do otherwise would serve only to lampoon myself, instead of them. It isn't something I expect to see appreciated by my interlocutors, including you. Its audience, if any, lies elsewhere.

Re: How long it takes to know if a job is right for you or not

#233

Post by n4r9 » Wed, Jul 02, 2025, 10:15 PM UTC

throwanem wrote: post #232

n4r9 wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So... what are you trying to gain by using hyperbole?

What would you like to suggest I would gain by acting otherwise? No comments on this website are private, other perhaps than in orange-name backchannels, and none here are flagged. Those provisos notwithstanding you can see exactly the same discussion I can, and if you felt you could argue other than that it has progressed exactly as I describe, I assume by now you would have essayed the attempt. Even where it would…

Do you never take a step back and wonder whether all this talk about "seriousness" is just a deflection?

Re: How long it takes to know if a job is right for you or not

#234

Post by n4r9 » Thu, Jul 03, 2025, 8:01 AM UTC

n4r9 wrote: post #233

throwanem wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you like to suggest I would gain by acting otherwise? No comments on this website are private, other perhaps than in orange-name backchannels, and none here are flagged. Those provisos notwithstanding you can see exactly the same discussion I can, and if you felt you could argue other than that it has progressed exactly as I describe, I assume by now you would have essayed the attempt. Even where it would…

Do you never take a step back and wonder whether all this talk about "seriousness" is just a deflection?

P.S. AFAICT your comment boils down to "I'm being inconsiderate because I think you're idiots". If so, at least you're honest, though you struggle to speak plainly.

Re: How long it takes to know if a job is right for you or not

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Post by throwanem » Sun, Jul 06, 2025, 11:53 AM UTC

n4r9 wrote: post #234

n4r9 wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you never take a step back and wonder whether all this talk about "seriousness" is just a deflection?

P.S. AFAICT your comment boils down to "I'm being inconsiderate because I think you're idiots". If so, at least you're honest, though you struggle to speak plainly.

I'm being inconsiderate because I'm dealing with people who mistake their opinions for facts and their aesthetics where present for morals, behaviors both well calculated to attract my interest without my respect.

I don't think you're an idiot. I think you're a smug, self-satisfied, deliberately ignorant ratiocinator who rarely understands why he succeeds and never why he fails because he does not really know how to think, although he is very sure that he does. This is the only conversation you and I can have on this website that is interesting to me, at least until you demonstrate some potential otherwise, which by now you seem as unlikely desirous as capable of doing.

If you want to boil all that down to something easier to swallow, then you're welcome. And, yes, I'm well aware that "no u" is as available a response here as previously. Do you think it will avail you more now than then?