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Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by Narishma »

lajosbacs wrote: post #50

It is insane to me that you cannot turn it off in the setting even as a premium user. Or better yet, make this opt-in for everyone. I live in a German speaking country, yet my native language is other and German is almost never preferred when I watch some content. All my UIs are in English. Yet, I open a video by a Brit and he is autodubbed to German. There really isn't any similar UX decision by any other reputed co…

> There really isn't any similar UX decision by any other reputed company that would be comparably stupid as this.

Let me introduce you to reddit.

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by redwall_hp »

Parae wrote: post #91
chartered_stack wrote: post #31

I actually appreciate the YouTube's auto-translate feature a lot because it allows me to search through videos in languages I don't know but still like to view videos and listen to videos in. For example, I listen to a lot of city pop and anime title songs on YouTube and a lot of them have titles in Japanese only. I absolutely would not find it as easy as I do to search through this content and listen to the music if…

I'm against auto-translate for the exact same argument. I don't want japanese band's name to be translated. Nor I want my own music titles to be translated into other languages. There are many reasons why I wrote or said something in a specific language.

I also agree. Spotify actually went the other way, about six or seven years ago. They used to use translated song titles where available, but switched to using the canonical title in the canonical script.

My response to having whole playlists effectively change language was the most reasonable one: start learning Japanese. Now I can at least read kana and get a solid chunk of titles, and I pick out phrases here and there in the lyrics now.

I can't imagine trying to search for something with a specific title and having the results screwed by bizarre machine translation.

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by Narishma »

sebtron wrote: post #280
jacek wrote: post #152

It is incredible how many addons I need to make YouTube usable. Here's my list (all Firefox): - uBlock Origin - ad block - SponsorBlock - to skip in video ads (some other nice features like highlights too) - YouTube Row Fixer - for the tiles to adjust to the window - Return YouTube Dislike - self explanatory - YouTube No Translation - thanks for the suggestion!

To you know any extension to get more than 4 videos per screenful on my 27" monitor?

I just use this ublock origin filter:

    www.youtube.com##ytd-rich-item-renderer:style(--ytd-rich-grid-items-per-row: 6)

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by gs17 »

josefx wrote: post #255
rightbyte wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is terrible and took me a while to realize what was happening. I though some videos were generated spam. Reddit does something similar now. It auto translates posts and they show up in Google in my native tongue. Really annoying since when I search in that language I specifically don't want English sites.

For reddit things get even worse: not all commenters realize that the original post has been translated, so you get a flood of comments from people commenting in their native language. Getting modern day tower of babel vibes from that.

> not all commenters realize that the original post has been translated

Does it actually say it is somewhere obvious? My girlfriend and I both looked something up and each got the same Reddit thread, but one in English and one in Chinese. She had no idea hers was translated.

But I also thought it was supposed to do the reverse if someone comments in the translated language, adding an original-language comment instead of a translated-language one.

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by gs17 »

RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u wrote: post #88

I won't be contributing much to rational discussion, but this "feature" annoys me so much that I just have to rant for a bit. ---- Like, is nobody in Google multi-lingual? Who the fuck thought this -- not auto-translation, but forced auto-translation -- is a good idea? Surely for an organization that purportedly only hires the cream-of-the-crop, they'll have a larger fraction of employees that speak more than one lan…

I'm convinced the people who decide on features for YouTube don't use it. Auto-dubbing sounds like it could be great... until you click on a video with it applied.

> Speaking about shit features, let's throw "Stable Volume" into the pile.

"Ambient Mode" too. It's a big waste of resources. It won't hurt your ears, but it eats up battery for no reason.

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by ffsm8 »

Tor3 wrote: post #237
snailmailman wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been learning a new language, and I’m constantly encountering language-learning videos that get translated entirely into my native language, effectively useless until I revert the audio track. Annoyingly, there’s not a native way to revert the translated description and title as far as I know. And this seems to be done without the knowledge of the creator! I watched a language-learning YouTube short today that w…

I've seen a bunch of different shorts which have the same AI-generated horrible voice. I always assumed this was just the author preferring to script the audio and generate the voice. Can I assume this is actually big-G auto-dubbing the short? If so, then I'm guilty of (incorrectly) complaining to the author of several shorts.

Google is auto translating their videos unless the content creators explicitly opts out. The worst about this feature is that it depends on the language setting of the user, so the creator will likely never find out it's happening, because they're probably using YouTube in the language they're making the videos in.

It's a toggle in their creator profile that I believe was auto enabled at some point.

It's especially horrendous when the short has foreign language music. I was a following some Japanese cooking/baking channels some time ago, until this feature made them intolerable through the music translation.

Anyway, you can easily see wherever YouTube ruined it via this feature: it gets a small "dub" badge next to the title - and you can manually switch the audio via the gear icon... Which isn't available for shorts, so you need to open these via the regular video URL... Which is way too much effort, obviously.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/15569972?sjid=1621...

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by joseda-hg »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #184
ozim wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are doing automated voice over now and automated translation of video titles.

huh I don't seem to get it. Do you have a link where I can see it in action? on edit: am in Denmark, I don't notice any automatic translation of the three languages I see most often - Danish, English, or Italian. on second edit: but maybe I am just not observing it in action when it happens or maybe I don't watch the kind of videos they do it to - anyway I'd like to see it.

Not all creators enable it (Or take the time / know to disable it, as some report it enables automatically), but it's more common on say Mr Beast or Kurzgezagt, Larger channels that would keep an eye on click troughs

As a point of anecdata, I go out of my way to avoid these, and report them any time I come across them, and now there's been a while I've not gotten them on content I want (But I do get them on some of the default feed YouTube places on home, even if I never interact with them)

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by joseda-hg »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #184
ozim wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are doing automated voice over now and automated translation of video titles.

huh I don't seem to get it. Do you have a link where I can see it in action? on edit: am in Denmark, I don't notice any automatic translation of the three languages I see most often - Danish, English, or Italian. on second edit: but maybe I am just not observing it in action when it happens or maybe I don't watch the kind of videos they do it to - anyway I'd like to see it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVh4xvG1ltY

https://imgur.com/a/HbBWcX8

For the sake of completeness, this is what it looks like in the same account with 2 devices with different languages

This is a best case scenario, it's at least respecting device language* (Which isn't always the case, and the inconsistency adds insult to injury), note translation and dubbing isn't marked when clicking, and both languages are enabled on the account

PD: I take back my other comment, apparently I also get them on videos for my regular feed, apparently by now I just filter it out and ge t ocasionally angry when I realize

* But not really, United States Spanish isn't quite right, and it's jarring even when not comming from an AI Voice

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by StefanBatory »

oc1 wrote: post #20

Reddit is the worst offender. I really wonder what goes through the mind of the management clerks at these companies.

Even worse - if I search something in my native language, it's because I want to see things relevant to my country! I don't care about experiences of someone in USA or Brasil if I look up for something in Polish :<
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