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Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by Seb-C »

qwertox wrote: post #176

Autodubbing is probably the worst feature Google has ever implemented. It's OK if they want to offer it, but at least let me disable it for specific languages. And for those languages which I don't understand, let me choose a default autodubbing language. Because I assume that auto-generated translations from French to English will be far better than those from French to German or Spanish. Also, the voices they use s…

The bare minimal would be to implement the Accept-Languages http header correctly, not just a randomly picked subset in it. They cannot seem to even bother to do that.

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by yoz-y »

edarchis wrote: post #158
mdavid626 wrote: post #66

Standard American thing - thinking everyone speaks only one language, and that language being the language of the country you live in.

What drives me nuts with this is that they'll go for a weird guessing game instead of using the language settings that the browser is providing in every single request. My browser states that I favour English, then French. My user profile on the website has "English" as language. Yet, when I get to the homepage, it tries to guess my language from my IP. NOOOO.

When you look around the comments here, you will see that while people agree on how this should be handled (list of languages spoken, in some preferential order) there is no consensus of where this should list come from.

It could be system - but there is a surprising amount of people who set their OS to some language they are learning, or just English for convenience. And they do not want this to affect the web.

It could be the browser, but YouTube and most other services for that matter, are mostly used through apps.

It could be in the profile (but which one Google, YouTube, local app?)

This seemingly simple problem has an issue with discoverability.

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by AlienRobot »

rightbyte wrote: post #187
qwertox wrote: post #176

Autodubbing is probably the worst feature Google has ever implemented. It's OK if they want to offer it, but at least let me disable it for specific languages. And for those languages which I don't understand, let me choose a default autodubbing language. Because I assume that auto-generated translations from French to English will be far better than those from French to German or Spanish. Also, the voices they use s…

It is terrible and took me a while to realize what was happening. I though some videos were generated spam. Reddit does something similar now. It auto translates posts and they show up in Google in my native tongue. Really annoying since when I search in that language I specifically don't want English sites.

It's like they saw WP plugins that auto-translate articles for SEO spam and thought that was a great idea.

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by Akronymus »

saubeidl wrote: post #210
rightbyte wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is terrible and took me a while to realize what was happening. I though some videos were generated spam. Reddit does something similar now. It auto translates posts and they show up in Google in my native tongue. Really annoying since when I search in that language I specifically don't want English sites.

I live in the Netherlands and speak German in addition to English. My Dutch is ... not that great. Thanks to the geniuses at Reddit, I now frequently find posts on /r/de or similar German subreddits translated from my native language into one I'm worse at!

you can use old.reddit.com to avoid having stuff be translated.

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by [deleted] »

saubeidl wrote: post #210
rightbyte wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is terrible and took me a while to realize what was happening. I though some videos were generated spam. Reddit does something similar now. It auto translates posts and they show up in Google in my native tongue. Really annoying since when I search in that language I specifically don't want English sites.

I live in the Netherlands and speak German in addition to English. My Dutch is ... not that great. Thanks to the geniuses at Reddit, I now frequently find posts on /r/de or similar German subreddits translated from my native language into one I'm worse at!

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Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by user923851 »

lajosbacs wrote: post #50

It is insane to me that you cannot turn it off in the setting even as a premium user. Or better yet, make this opt-in for everyone. I live in a German speaking country, yet my native language is other and German is almost never preferred when I watch some content. All my UIs are in English. Yet, I open a video by a Brit and he is autodubbed to German. There really isn't any similar UX decision by any other reputed co…

> There really isn't any similar UX decision by any other reputed company

Unfortunately here is. I remember around a decade ago I was buying Doctor Who DVDs on eBay. You would end up with ludicrous translations such as "Der Zeiteinmischer" for "The Time Meddler".

Here's an ebay thread with users expressing similar frustrations. https://community.ebay.com/t5/Buying/How-do-I-disable-Automa...

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by mnmalst »

atoav wrote: post #53
lajosbacs wrote: post #50

It is insane to me that you cannot turn it off in the setting even as a premium user. Or better yet, make this opt-in for everyone. I live in a German speaking country, yet my native language is other and German is almost never preferred when I watch some content. All my UIs are in English. Yet, I open a video by a Brit and he is autodubbed to German. There really isn't any similar UX decision by any other reputed co…

German is my first language, but I prefer consuming English content in its original language. The thing with youtube translated titles is that half of them aren't even propper German and half of that half is utterly nonsensical, because some English ideom has been translated too literally.

I prefer the same. It gets even better when youtube starts translating a video only available in your native language to English and you have no way to enable the native language audio.

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by antirez »

As a person with a YouTube channel with most Italian content, and only coding content in English: as it is today, it is horrible. But if they fix it to the stop AI standards of voice translation, it will be a game changer. I'm referring to natural voice (matching the original one) lips sync, and there will no longer be language barriers on YouTube.

Re: YouTube No Translation

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Post by user923851 »

anal_reactor wrote: post #109
rdtsc wrote: post #8

It's surprising how hostile youtube is to multilingual users. Probably all in some attempt to show off their translation capability or to improve the experience for users who may want to access content in a language they don't speak? Or it's just as dumb as this was on some product managers "designed and implemented" line to get promoted? But, surely someone sane there has to realize there is a large number of users…

Average user is not multilingual. Target group is average user. End of story.

I don't agree with the average user not being bilingual, but I do see your point about who the target audience is here.

I don't have any numbers but it seems plausible that the average user doesn't make an informed decision about where they consume their videos or which search engine they use. They buy a smartphone to connect to their family and friends, to learn and to use essential services.

Unfortunately the smartphone is not designed to help users with this goal. It is a medium for tech companies to shove garbage down the throats on people who are just trying to live their lives, and to perform the largest mass surveillance campaign in the history of mankind. Communication and connectivity is the Trojan horse used to sell the malware that the smartphone is.

This feature is designed for users who "don't know any better".

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