At least 20% of code must be AI generated with the goal of at least 80% by the end of the year. CEO declared that vibe coders create better solutions because they are “goal oriented” as opposed to traditional coders that are “process oriented”.
Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?
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Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
In college, newcomers will start with the basics of high level languages and then spend the rest of the time learning prompting. Just like nowadays assembler is only a side note, C is only taught in specialized classes (OS, graphics) and most things are taught in high level languages.
How will they be able to review AI generated code if they don't understand anything beyond the basics?
How will they be able to review AI generated code
The same way most of us review our compiler generated code today (ie not at all). If it works it works, if doesn't we fix the higher level input and try again. I won't be surprised if in a few more generation the AI will skip the human readable code step and generate ASTs directly.
Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?
#63Yes. I work for a large financial institution and they are all in on AI. All managers and tech leads have been instructed to apply AI as much as possible and to shoehorn it into every single thing because the company has made a BIG public announcement that their future is AI. So now they are desperately trying to find ways to back up those claims.
To be honest. I think it's pretty cool tech (I mostly use copilot with either Claude Sonnet 3.7 or 4, or otherwise GTP 4.1). Agent mode is cool. I use it every day and it has helped me work faster, do better work by it preemptively catering for things that might have otherwise taken many iterations of releases to discover, so yeah, I think AI is pretty good for software developers overall. It's a great tool to have. Is it going to do my work and leave me redundant? Not any time soon. I think the company I work for will fail in their enforced AI efforts, spend a gazillion dollars and will go quietly back to outsourcing overseas when the dust settles. I feel sad for the junior devs though as they are basically vibe coding their way through Jira tickets atm. I am a graybeard, 30+ years in the industry.
Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?
#64Our company is relatively old (20+ years), mid size, hardware oriented and has a lot of people of all ages. For now neural network use is carefully allowed and encouraged to try out of a list of allowed LLMs only, but it's not mandatory and not forced (yet). There is also an internal project based on NNs to automate log analysis, but it is very early from possibly becoming a useful product, too many noise and useless non-actionable results.
Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
How will they be able to review AI generated code if they don't understand anything beyond the basics?
How will they be able to review AI generated code The same way most of us review our compiler generated code today (ie not at all). If it works it works, if doesn't we fix the higher level input and try again. I won't be surprised if in a few more generation the AI will skip the human readable code step and generate ASTs directly.
> if doesn't we fix the higher level input and try again
How can I visit this fantasy world of yours where LLMs are as reliable and deterministic as compilers and any mistakes can be blamed solely on the user?
Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
How will they be able to review AI generated code The same way most of us review our compiler generated code today (ie not at all). If it works it works, if doesn't we fix the higher level input and try again. I won't be surprised if in a few more generation the AI will skip the human readable code step and generate ASTs directly.
> if doesn't we fix the higher level input and try again How can I visit this fantasy world of yours where LLMs are as reliable and deterministic as compilers and any mistakes can be blamed solely on the user?
How can I visit this fantasy world of yours...
Wait 20 years.
Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
> if doesn't we fix the higher level input and try again How can I visit this fantasy world of yours where LLMs are as reliable and deterministic as compilers and any mistakes can be blamed solely on the user?
How can I visit this fantasy world of yours... Wait 20 years.
10 years, 20 years...
It's really easy to make unsubstantiated claims about what will happen decades from now, knowing your claims will be long forgotten when that time finally comes around.
Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
How can I visit this fantasy world of yours... Wait 20 years.
10 years, 20 years... It's really easy to make unsubstantiated claims about what will happen decades from now, knowing your claims will be long forgotten when that time finally comes around.
Crawling up the abstraction ladder and 'forgetting' everything below has been the driving trend in programming since at least the 60s and probably before.
We for example have a whole generation of programmers who have no idea what the difference between a stack and a heap is and know nothing about how memory is allocated. They just assume that creating arbitrarily complex objects and data structures always works and memory never runs out. And they have successful careers, earning good money, delivering useful software. I see no reason why this won't continue.
Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?
#69We are forcing non-use because of compliance. There is a fear that the models will scan and steal our proprietary code.
Re: Ask HN: Is your company forcing use of AI?
#70At least in my 2.5 person devops team, no. Also I can't imagine how being handed a bunch of autogenerated terraform and ansible code would help me. Maybe 10% of my time is spent actually writing the code, the rest is running it (ansible is slow), troubleshooting incidents, discussing how to solve them & how to implement new stuff, etc. If someone works in a devops position where AI is more of a threat, I'd like to he…
I use Claude code with terraform all the time. It’s particularly good when your codebase is well modularized or at modularizing existing terraform.
It’s also quite good at getting to a solution by using validate/plan loops and figuring out syntax/state issues.
The biggest challenge is the lack of test sophistication in most terraform setups.
But llms generally are _amazing_ for my ops work. Feeding a codebase into one and then logs I’ve seen Claude code identify exact production issues with no other prompting. I use llms to help write incident reports, translate queries in the various time series db we use, etc.
I’d encourage you to try an llm for your tasks, for me for ops it’s been a huge boon.