Reddit is the worst offender. I really wonder what goes through the mind of the management clerks at these companies.
I really wonder what goes through the mind of the management clerks at these companies.
"More $$$!!1"
YouTube No Translation
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Re: YouTube No Translation
#22It's surprising how hostile youtube is to multilingual users. Probably all in some attempt to show off their translation capability or to improve the experience for users who may want to access content in a language they don't speak? Or it's just as dumb as this was on some product managers "designed and implemented" line to get promoted? But, surely someone sane there has to realize there is a large number of users…
There are some very complicated legal issues that come up with international video.
Movie companies sometimes don’t want things distributed on certain areas - ever. Like when there are different productions of the same movie for different areas.
The productions would compete against each other.
It’s one of the reasons DVD has multiple incompatible regions.
I don’t know if this is YouTube’s reasoning.
Re: YouTube No Translation
#23It's surprising how hostile youtube is to multilingual users. Probably all in some attempt to show off their translation capability or to improve the experience for users who may want to access content in a language they don't speak? Or it's just as dumb as this was on some product managers "designed and implemented" line to get promoted? But, surely someone sane there has to realize there is a large number of users…
There are some very complicated legal issues that come up with international video. Movie companies sometimes don’t want things distributed on certain areas - ever. Like when there are different productions of the same movie for different areas. The productions would compete against each other. It’s one of the reasons DVD has multiple incompatible regions. I don’t know if this is YouTube’s reasoning.
If I remember right YouTube already provides the tools for that and you can just outright region lock an upload (possibly depending on having the right creator bits as a studio/large channel)
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#24Why would I want this? I watched a translated YouTube video and it was great. If I don't want the translated sound track there's a button right there in settings to change it. Why do I need this extension?
Because displaced honorifics alone is too much. Translated audio railroads is match was a draw. worse.
Re: YouTube No Translation
#25It's surprising how hostile youtube is to multilingual users. Probably all in some attempt to show off their translation capability or to improve the experience for users who may want to access content in a language they don't speak? Or it's just as dumb as this was on some product managers "designed and implemented" line to get promoted? But, surely someone sane there has to realize there is a large number of users…
Right ? I am suprised that Facebook is actually the one leading in this UX: they clearly separate UX language ( singular ) and Languages which you don't need translation ( plural ).
I really, really want to have a way to tell Youtube that if I enable subtitles and the content is either English or Portuguese, then the subtitles should be shown in the original language (either subtitles created by the author or auto-generated subtitles - sometimes I can't do audio), but if it's another language, it should be shown in English (again, either subtitles authored by a person, or auto-generated ones)
This extension can control subtitles so maybe there is hope that this or another extension will offer this kind of fine granularity
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are some very complicated legal issues that come up with international video. Movie companies sometimes don’t want things distributed on certain areas - ever. Like when there are different productions of the same movie for different areas. The productions would compete against each other. It’s one of the reasons DVD has multiple incompatible regions. I don’t know if this is YouTube’s reasoning.
If I remember right YouTube already provides the tools for that and you can just outright region lock an upload (possibly depending on having the right creator bits as a studio/large channel)
Yes, for CMS channels, which would be your movie studios, TV studios, etc. They have an option to block certain countries from watching it. If you are around in YouTube often enough you will find a video or two that will say something like "this video isn't available in your region/country"
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#27So Google assumes that its user only speaks one language and needs translation for everything else. Is this the educational standard in America?
What's crazy is the US actually does have a decent proportion of multilingual speakers thanks to its history of immigration (a quick search reveals 20% of American residents are bilingual). Even Google staff should be a pretty multicultural bunch of people as they recruit globally.
Re: YouTube No Translation
#28It's surprising how hostile youtube is to multilingual users. Probably all in some attempt to show off their translation capability or to improve the experience for users who may want to access content in a language they don't speak? Or it's just as dumb as this was on some product managers "designed and implemented" line to get promoted? But, surely someone sane there has to realize there is a large number of users…
i18n and l10n are something that I have seen a company done right. It is easy developer to assume:
If your IP is coming from country X, you must want the content to be served in language X.
No, there are tourist from country Z, long term resident who prefer language A and people from country X want to learn language B.
- If your browser Accept-Language say X,Y, then you must want all the content to be served in X.
No, I want my search result to be predominantly in X, but when I search for things about Y, show me language Y, and when I search for this band from country Z, please show me in language X.
As a hongkonger (zh_hk + en_gb), living in Singapore (zh_cn + en?), following JPOP. This is the daily fight I have with browser.
I would rather all application, including web app just give me the option to choose and say, interface language, english, content language, follow origin.
Re: YouTube No Translation
#29It's surprising how hostile youtube is to multilingual users. Probably all in some attempt to show off their translation capability or to improve the experience for users who may want to access content in a language they don't speak? Or it's just as dumb as this was on some product managers "designed and implemented" line to get promoted? But, surely someone sane there has to realize there is a large number of users…
There are some very complicated legal issues that come up with international video. Movie companies sometimes don’t want things distributed on certain areas - ever. Like when there are different productions of the same movie for different areas. The productions would compete against each other. It’s one of the reasons DVD has multiple incompatible regions. I don’t know if this is YouTube’s reasoning.
No, the complaint is opposite of that. They're seeking ways to escape their translation efforts because it's so bad.
It has nothing to do with difficulties of offering translations. It's about declining complimentary ketchup squeeze on latte.
Re: YouTube No Translation
#30It's surprising how hostile youtube is to multilingual users. Probably all in some attempt to show off their translation capability or to improve the experience for users who may want to access content in a language they don't speak? Or it's just as dumb as this was on some product managers "designed and implemented" line to get promoted? But, surely someone sane there has to realize there is a large number of users…
i18n and l10n are something that I have seen a company done right. It is easy developer to assume: If your IP is coming from country X, you must want the content to be served in language X. No, there are tourist from country Z, long term resident who prefer language A and people from country X want to learn language B. - If your browser Accept-Language say X,Y, then you must want all the content to be served in X. No…
> As a hongkonger (zh_hk + en_gb), living in Singapore (zh_cn + en?), following JPOP. This is the daily fight I have with browser.
Ah yes as a Korean living in Japan with locale set to English, this truly is a daily fight.
> I would rather all application, including web app just give me the option to choose
I've left websites for other competitors because they wouldn't have a button to change language.