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Apple weighs using Anthropic or OpenAI to power Siri

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Re: Apple weighs using Anthropic or OpenAI to power Siri

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I find this all quite baffling.

I’m pretty sure I could knock up a decent Siri clone with got4o-mini, because I already did a bootleg Alexa to power our smart home stuff after Amazon removed the privacy controls. The only hard bit was the wake word.

Siri is currently so terrible that even something like Mistral 8b could do a decent job. Whey don’t they just run something like that on their own servers instead?

Re: Apple weighs using Anthropic or OpenAI to power Siri

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I find this all quite baffling. I’m pretty sure I could knock up a decent Siri clone with got4o-mini, because I already did a bootleg Alexa to power our smart home stuff after Amazon removed the privacy controls. The only hard bit was the wake word. Siri is currently so terrible that even something like Mistral 8b could do a decent job. Whey don’t they just run something like that on their own servers instead?

They are competing against Gemini on Android, so it stands to reason that they need something on par with that. Per TFA they are still talking about running those models on Apple's own servers.

The more interesting question is how they're going to handle the 180 on all the talk about privacy.

Re: Apple weighs using Anthropic or OpenAI to power Siri

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At this point, just about anything Apple can do will be way way way better than the absolute turd that is Siri. (It was only impressive 15 years ago).

Apple's AI strategy has seriously hurt their reputation. I'd love to be a fly on the wall where they discussed a strategy that amounted to "forget using the most basic LLM to understand combinations of commands like, stop all the timers and just keep the one that has about four minutes left... or turn on the lights in x, y, z room and turn off the fans around the house. let's just try to invent a completely new wheel that will get us bogged down in tech hell for years never making any progress"

They could've just improved the thing probably 99% of people use Siri for (Music, Home, Timers, Weather, Sports Scores) without developing any new tech or trying to reinvent any wheel. And in the background, continue to iterate in secret like they do best. Instead they have zero to show for two years since good LLMs have been out.

Even my son suggested things like "I wish your phone had ChatGPT and you could ask it to organize all your apps into folders" – we can all come up with really basic things they could've done so easily, with privacy built in.

Re: Apple weighs using Anthropic or OpenAI to power Siri

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Maybe they should just start putting 16gb ram in iPhones from now on and make their local inference job so much easier.

I know, right

I bet Apple put 16GB on their notebooks as default while grinding their teeth and cursing at the whole $5 of extra cost per unit

Re: Apple weighs using Anthropic or OpenAI to power Siri

#10

Maybe they should just start putting 16gb ram in iPhones from now on and make their local inference job so much easier.

I know, right I bet Apple put 16GB on their notebooks as default while grinding their teeth and cursing at the whole $5 of extra cost per unit

$5 of cost, $195 of foregone profit...
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