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Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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Speaking as an addict, yes most regular users are. It's not the same kind of addiction (emotional, not physical) but it's still addictive. If you smoke weed every day for a year, and stop, for the first year you stop, your suicide rate is doubled.

Citation needed

Heard it from the doctor on mtv. Remember that show?

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking as an addict, yes most regular users are. It's not the same kind of addiction (emotional, not physical) but it's still addictive. If you smoke weed every day for a year, and stop, for the first year you stop, your suicide rate is doubled.

Isnt it possible that people smoking weed were treating conditions like anxiety or depression and are more likely to commit suicide in the first place? Weed has had a real deficit of actual study and although some people can get a dependency on it I have a hard time qualifying those people as addicts when stopping weed is so much less dangerous and difficult than other substances. Its a complicated topic that require…

Oh that’s absolutely part of it.

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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post #29
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking as an addict, yes most regular users are. It's not the same kind of addiction (emotional, not physical) but it's still addictive. If you smoke weed every day for a year, and stop, for the first year you stop, your suicide rate is doubled.

People don’t take the withdrawal potential seriously. I’ve had a complex relationship with cannabis over the years, and one of the things that I didn’t understand before getting stuck in a daily habit of heavy use for a period of time is how hard it can be on your body to just stop. I had major upset stomach and food aversion for a few weeks to the point that I lost 10 pounds, major sleep issues, a major spike in dep…

Same. After enough use, I just kind of forgot how to have fun without it. Sleep issues are the worst.

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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Yeah, that’s a bit of a red flag. A better study would of course open up the data, so validation would be easier. But a better study would also have figured out whether the effects are correlated with specific strains of cannabis, perhaps even specific cannabinoids. There is no guarantee that it is specifically THC causing these effects, it could very well be CBG (cannabigerol) or just the inhalation of smoke itself:…

I’m more inclined to believe the physical stress of coughing my ass off on a bad hit would wreck my heart over time than the THC itself, times thousands and thousands of coughs…

Err, you sound like alcoholics I know who won't use ice in their drinks because they "had a bad icecube once". That is trying to justify your habit by finding anything you can to blame the issues on something else.

I have no idea what the truth is here. However it sounds like your mind won't be open to it if it doesn't allow for your drugs.

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

#36

There's also a link between sugar and your teeth falling out, water and drowning, heat and burning to death, sunlight and cancer, etc. Cardiovascular disease presents in half of all American adults. This isn't interesting news.

It is when some people consistently parrot the idea that weed is harmless.

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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There are many old guys who smoke a pack of cigarettes a day for their whole life. There's many more guys who aren't as old because they died from smoking a pack of cigarettes a day. (I'm not saying weed causes these issues, but I am saying anecdotes are less than useful)

I have met many smokers with diseases directly related to the habit of smoking cigarettes. I have never met a cannabis smoker in the same situation or that developed it over time (20 years span). Obviously, cannabis smokers also die from heart diseases but if smoking cannabis was something that would be related to heart attacks we would know by now, a research would not be needed or it would be quite obvious and acce…

Cannabis was illegal for many years in most countries (it often still is, but the laws are ignored). There have not been many studies year, given the timelines of the law enforcement I'd expect that we would first see the long term studies start to come out now. And of course the first studies will not be conclusive.

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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post #22

Only sort of related, but I'm almost completely unable to smoke anymore. I used to smoke heavily in my early 20s (33 now). Now if I take more than one hit of anything, I'm liable to have an anxiety/panic attack. I can hardly move and I get these awful chills. The way it's consumed hardly matters; even with edibles, I can only have 1-2mg. I've ceased entirely and I don't regret it at all. I'm sure there are at least a…

Same. Stupid me kept smoking for a year despite that.

It's fairly common. Works great then one day, boom, pure anxiety hell. I went from being my happiest ever to taking years to just feel "ok" again

Re: Positive link between cannabis use and 'Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events'

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post #22

Only sort of related, but I'm almost completely unable to smoke anymore. I used to smoke heavily in my early 20s (33 now). Now if I take more than one hit of anything, I'm liable to have an anxiety/panic attack. I can hardly move and I get these awful chills. The way it's consumed hardly matters; even with edibles, I can only have 1-2mg. I've ceased entirely and I don't regret it at all. I'm sure there are at least a…

Same here. I think the link to panic attacks and psychosis triggers gets downplayed a bit.
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