OP this looks insane, very broad set of functionality.
Im going to run this on my k8s, congratz for now.
Show HN: Octelium – FOSS Alternative to Teleport, Cloudflare, Tailscale, Ngrok
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Re: Show HN: Octelium – FOSS Alternative to Teleport, Cloudflare, Tailscale, Ngrok
#142I have an immediate complete distrust to anything that throws around so many buzzwords. This is the github page and I still don't understand what it even does, specifically.
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Re: Show HN: Octelium – FOSS Alternative to Teleport, Cloudflare, Tailscale, Ngrok
#143There are so so many of these already... - Tinc (the OG of P2P VPN) - Hamachi (not open though) - ZeroTier - Nebula (from Slack) - Tailscale - Netbird I wonder why people keep building more. I know each has its own quirks and things they're better at, but the difference is really quite minimal. One of the things I really would like is zero-trust 'lighthouses'. With current Zerotier and Tailscale, you really have to t…
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
TailScale is wonderful but they do need competition. I imagine an IPO is on the horizon, and as soon as they enter that phase, nasty price increases are sure to follow unless someone else is nipping hard at their heels.
But there are so so many competing products already? Not all are commercial (but why would you want that anyway). But ZeroTier is another one like that. Basically the same thing.
Yeah, I chose ZeroTier over Tailscale early on. Zero regrets, it’s nearly perfect for my use-case (remote monitoring and management of highly diverse systems and environments).
Re: Show HN: Octelium – FOSS Alternative to Teleport, Cloudflare, Tailscale, Ngrok
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hopefully their tolerance to self-hosters (Headscale) doesn't change.
They seem to be fine with it: "You could alternatively host your own trusted control server with Headscale."[1] [1] https://tailscale.com/blog/tailnet-lock-ga#self-hosting
They're fine with it now. They won't be, when the next potential revenue source on their list is to crack down on it.
Remember, revenue must always increase, and must always increase faster than the year before (and this is more important than keeping the company alive), so companies always try increasingly desperate measures. Right now they are nowhere near the point of that particular measure. But they will be in the future.
Re: Show HN: Octelium – FOSS Alternative to Teleport, Cloudflare, Tailscale, Ngrok
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have been developing the project solo on a private GitHub repo since 2020. I am not VC-backed or whatever else, Octelium has been a solo effort so far basically. The project itself is now 100% open source as you can see. However, even if I open sourced the initial private repo, what would make you believe that I am who I really am? maybe even all those git commits from 2020 weren't really from 2020 and their timest…
Don’t let these comments get to you. If they don’t trust you, it’s their right, but then they should just not use the software, instead of writing this type of caustic comments. Poor form in my view. Keep up, it looks amazing!!
If these comments are “caustic” I’d recommend steering well clear of…the rest of the internet. These comments, from my perspective, represent a very pragmatic position from people who encounter scam bait daily in these same forums.
Re: Show HN: Octelium – FOSS Alternative to Teleport, Cloudflare, Tailscale, Ngrok
#147I think a lot of other commentors here are more taking issue with the concept of ZTNs in general and may not have used them at scale, or at all. The intro is buzzword heavy, however I don't think that's an issue with your documentation, just the terminology of the space Octelium operates in which came from big business and was conceived as buzzwords to start with so there's not a lot of flexibility to use alternate t…
Reminds of the confusion when https://openziti.io/ shared on HN a while back. ZTN is a very different beast than WireGuard-derivatives.
Re: Show HN: Octelium – FOSS Alternative to Teleport, Cloudflare, Tailscale, Ngrok
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don’t let these comments get to you. If they don’t trust you, it’s their right, but then they should just not use the software, instead of writing this type of caustic comments. Poor form in my view. Keep up, it looks amazing!!
If these comments are “caustic” I’d recommend steering well clear of…the rest of the internet. These comments, from my perspective, represent a very pragmatic position from people who encounter scam bait daily in these same forums.
Should you be paranoid nowadays? yes you should.
Should a user call people posting their software here state actors and the such? I really don’t think it helps anyone.
Rather, they should lay out thier points, suggest how the author could change their mind. Alternatively direct their warning to others if they feel their conviction that this is malware is unshakable.
Re: Show HN: Octelium – FOSS Alternative to Teleport, Cloudflare, Tailscale, Ngrok
#149For everyone who's having a hard time parsing what Octelium does, I found this page to be the clearest explanation: https://octelium.com/docs/octelium/latest/overview/how-octel... It's clearer because, instead of starting with a massive list of everything you could do with Octelium (which is indeed confusing), it starts by explaining the core primitives Octelium is built on, and builds up from there. And it actually…
TailScale is wonderful but they do need competition. I imagine an IPO is on the horizon, and as soon as they enter that phase, nasty price increases are sure to follow unless someone else is nipping hard at their heels.
Netbird is nipping at their heels
Re: Show HN: Octelium – FOSS Alternative to Teleport, Cloudflare, Tailscale, Ngrok
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
If these comments are “caustic” I’d recommend steering well clear of…the rest of the internet. These comments, from my perspective, represent a very pragmatic position from people who encounter scam bait daily in these same forums.
Should you be paranoid nowadays? yes you should. Should a user call people posting their software here state actors and the such? I really don’t think it helps anyone. Rather, they should lay out thier points, suggest how the author could change their mind. Alternatively direct their warning to others if they feel their conviction that this is malware is unshakable.
Given the nature of the proposed software, and reading through their other replies, its a legitimate concern.