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ICE test train reaches speeds of up to 405.0 km/h

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Re: ICE test train reaches speeds of up to 405.0 km/h

#51
post #20

'ICE' here means Intercity Express [0] and not internal combustion engine. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercity_Express

And also not the organization currently force-relocating innocent civilians to detention camps. I wonder if the Germans will end up having to rename the train system at some point.

It might be almost inconceivable for many Americans, but the daily lives of people in other countries doesn't revolve exclusively around America's internal politics…

Re: ICE test train reaches speeds of up to 405.0 km/h

#52
This article communicates what this is about very poorly, so I'm not surprised a lot of people are asking "what is so special about this train?".

The answer is: Nothing. Many ICE trains have the capability to go that fast* - and some already surpassed these speeds on test tracks decades ago. It's really nothing special to make a train go these speeds.

What this test was supposed to show is that the real track (not a test track) between Erfurt and Leipzig/Halle can now support trains going that fast. Having compatible tracks is the real challenge (and cost sink) for high speed transport, not the trains themselves. Creating high speed track that is safe and usable in year-round conditions while being affordable to build and maintain is surprisingly hard.

* ICE-3s reached up to 368 km/h in tests, though ICE-4s are designed for more economical speeds in the 200-300 range and currently limited to 265km/h in software for safe operation.

Re: ICE test train reaches speeds of up to 405.0 km/h

#53
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For every train, there is a fixed number of tickets per price category. So sometimes, you can still find cheap tickets ("super sparpreis") a day before because thag specific train didn't have many bookings:)

Aw hell they picked up on that stupid American capitalist crap? I worked in Germany in 2005 and back then everything was fixed price per kilometer for each train class, and you could get rail passes of sorts and get on whatever the hell trains you want during their validity. I'd take train roundtrips after work just to watch sunsets.

The price concept discussed above applies to long-distance trains. Local trains are still different, especially if you have the "Deutschlandticket" (germany ticket) you can just hop on any local train you like.

Re: ICE test train reaches speeds of up to 405.0 km/h

#54
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seems the network of roads built in the 40s, 50s and 60s just can no longer be done efficiently. Of course they can, we have not lost that capability. It's not a matter of efficiency but effectivity. Road constructions of the 1960s are not effective for 21st century traffic demands. Today's level of traffic far exceeds the anticipated level of traffic at the time of construction. Germany sees this all the time,…

> Road constructions of the 1960s are not effective for 21st century traffic demands. Citation needed. As I see it, the US is still riding on the coattails of 1960-s road construction. We should be doing more of it, in fact, not sabotaging it with bike lanes and road diets.

More roads? More lanes?

Re: ICE test train reaches speeds of up to 405.0 km/h

#55
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For every train, there is a fixed number of tickets per price category. So sometimes, you can still find cheap tickets ("super sparpreis") a day before because thag specific train didn't have many bookings:)

Aw hell they picked up on that stupid American capitalist crap? I worked in Germany in 2005 and back then everything was fixed price per kilometer for each train class, and you could get rail passes of sorts and get on whatever the hell trains you want during their validity. I'd take train roundtrips after work just to watch sunsets.

Dynamic pricing based on availability is much more efficient, which is a good thing.

Re: ICE test train reaches speeds of up to 405.0 km/h

#56
post #4

'ICE' here means Intercity Express [0] and not internal combustion engine. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercity_Express

Recently took some of these in Germany, was a pretty pleasant experience! It was a bit odd how the ticket prices seem to fluctuate a lot over there based on timing (like 20 EUR if you buy half a week ahead of time, closer to 40 EUR nearer to travel date, at least in my case) but I much preferred taking the train over flying.

They follow a similar system like plane tickets.

Depending on the train you get, either you get a really nice travel, or some experience that doesn't reflect the plane like price ticket, and might leave you with some bad taste regarding train traveling.

Having canceled trains, crowded ICEs, either due to missing reservations as they are optional and anyone can get into one provided valid ticket, or because passagers from a canceled ICE needed to jump into an already crowded one, missign connections by 5m, being stuck in the middle of nowhere, only some WC work across the whole train, they decided to not have a wagon bar on a hot summer day,.....

The fun of train traveling, all great when stars align.

Re: ICE test train reaches speeds of up to 405.0 km/h

#57

'ICE' here means Intercity Express [0] and not internal combustion engine. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercity_Express

Nowadays, it also means balaclavaed, secretive, lawless, paramilitary disappearance "police".

Hey, if that’s what it takes to get the Americans to build high speed rail.

Re: ICE test train reaches speeds of up to 405.0 km/h

#58

This article communicates what this is about very poorly, so I'm not surprised a lot of people are asking "what is so special about this train?". The answer is: Nothing. Many ICE trains have the capability to go that fast* - and some already surpassed these speeds on test tracks decades ago. It's really nothing special to make a train go these speeds. What this test was supposed to show is that the real track (not a…

Isn't it also true that that area around Leipzig has been a thorn in the side of DB since the fall of the wall? I think I remember reading somewhere that the infrastructure in that area isn't ideal for high volume and speed of trains (due to stretches that only have a single track and a lack of guarded/signaled level crossings IIRC)

Re: ICE test train reaches speeds of up to 405.0 km/h

#60
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seems the network of roads built in the 40s, 50s and 60s just can no longer be done efficiently. Of course they can, we have not lost that capability. It's not a matter of efficiency but effectivity. Road constructions of the 1960s are not effective for 21st century traffic demands. Today's level of traffic far exceeds the anticipated level of traffic at the time of construction. Germany sees this all the time,…

> Road constructions of the 1960s are not effective for 21st century traffic demands. Citation needed. As I see it, the US is still riding on the coattails of 1960-s road construction. We should be doing more of it, in fact, not sabotaging it with bike lanes and road diets.

> not sabotaging it with bike lanes and road diets

If done right, human-centric infrastructure can create much better urban environments than car-centric ones.

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