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Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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These all seem to be such frivolous things in relation to the function of a computing device. They have nothing to do with capabilities or performance. Gimmicks. Just my personal opinion.

Yes, "gimmicks" that make billions upon billions of dollars.

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Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

#22
My opinion: I don't think Apple really cares about Samsung and just used this trial to slide in these trivial UI patents in order to have leverage against anyone making smart phones. It is to early to really know if anything in this trial is valid and what exactly this means going forward. Good luck trying to find unbiased information about this topic as Apple has already given their users the battle cry ("Samsung steals") which of course dominates all these stupid conversations.

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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post #6

The actual case covered far more phones than this ban list, they seem to only be interested in banning the top selling phones. Though that'll just drive more sales to the Galaxy S3, I assume.

These are all the (now) older and therefore even cheaper models. I think in general, Apple seeks to "decommoditize" the smart phone market.

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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These all seem to be such frivolous things in relation to the function of a computing device. They have nothing to do with capabilities or performance. Gimmicks. Just my personal opinion.

Yes, "gimmicks" that make billions upon billions of dollars.

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Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

#25

These all seem to be such frivolous things in relation to the function of a computing device. They have nothing to do with capabilities or performance. Gimmicks. Just my personal opinion.

Yes, "gimmicks" that make billions upon billions of dollars.

How do you know it's the gimmicks that make the "billions upon billions" of dollars? Are you making some assumptions?

Could marketing play a role in consumer decisions?

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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post #5
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Design patent '305: Icon interface and grid layout Design patent '677: iPhone design, edge-to-edge glass and display borders, front speaker" Some part of me just wants to scream.

Please keep in mind the difference between the title of a patent, and the claims of a patent. The title is inconsequential (and in fact, there's some incentive to make it as unhelpful as possible). The claims are the important part of a patent.

Also, mind the difference between design and utility patents. You can hold a design patent for a certain style of mug, for example. The Coca-Cola company owns a design patent on the style of the iconic Coke bottle, for example, but it wouldn't be able to patent "System and method for containing carbonated beverages."

Re: Ban this: Apple lists 8 Samsung devices it wants kept out of the US

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post #5
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Design patent '305: Icon interface and grid layout Design patent '677: iPhone design, edge-to-edge glass and display borders, front speaker" Some part of me just wants to scream.

Please keep in mind the difference between the title of a patent, and the claims of a patent. The title is inconsequential (and in fact, there's some incentive to make it as unhelpful as possible). The claims are the important part of a patent.

While true, I think looking at the quote from the jurors paints a different picture for their criteria:

"Once you determine that Samsung violated the patents, it's easy to just go down those different [Samsung] products, because it was all the same. Like the trade dress -- once you determine Samsung violated the trade dress, the flat screen with the bezel...then you go down the products to see if it had a bezel."

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