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MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System

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Re: MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System

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Post by orliesaurus »

edgolub wrote: post #279
thiht wrote: post #275

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Yes I understand that, but how do I write these endpoints myself without using magic @mcp annotations? After like an hour of searching I finally found the Lifecycle page: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/specification/2025-06-18/bas... and I think it contains the answers I’m looking for. But I feel this should be roughly explained in the first introduction. Agree that most of the pages feel LLM generated, and borderli…

The reason why they do not expose the underlying server schema, is because you aren't supposed to write your own MCP server from zero, in the same way you aren't supposed to write your own GraphQL Server from zero. Yes, technically you could, but you are "supposed" to just use a library that builds the actual endpoints based on the schema for the version of MCP you are using. And only worry about building your tools,…

Sadly you are right, everything is easy and stupidly made convenient these days ... Or maybe I am just a grumpy guy today! But I do remember when you had to struggle to get software to work, there was no developer experience back then :)

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Post by orliesaurus »

mudkipdev wrote: post #103

Anyone else feel like this article was written with ChatGPT

I do, especially the weird thing at the end that says something about MCP bread

Here

> P.S. If you build an MCP server that makes your computer emit the smell of fresh bread, we need to talk.

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Post by codybontecou »

ramoz wrote: post #222
qsort wrote: post #20

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Regardless of how good a model gets, it can't do much if it doesn't have access to deterministic tools and information about the state of the world. And that's before you take into account security: you can't have a model running arbitrary requests against production, that's psychotic. I don't have a high opinion of MCP and the hype it's generating is ridicolous, but the problem it supposedly solves is real. If it ca…

> Regardless of how good a model gets I don't think this is true. My Claude Code can: - open a browser, debug a ui, or navigate to any website - write a script to interact with any type of accessible api All without MCP. Within a year I expect there to be legitimate "computer use" agents. I expect agent sdks to take over llm apis as defacto abstractions for models, and MCP will have limited use isolated to certain pl…

They are kind of the same thing...

These are just tools Anthropic provides for you. Just like the tools a non-Anthropic service provides through their MCP server.

A community-led effort of tool creation via MCP will surely be faster and more powerful than waiting for in-house implementations.

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Post by shadowtree »

KronisLV wrote: post #267
jetsnoc wrote: post #245

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I wasn’t aware of this, it’s extremely shortsighted. My employees’ chats are my company’s data, and I should be able to use them as I see fit. Restricting API access to our own data moves them quickly in to the 'too difficult to continue doing business with' category. The reality is that Slack isn’t that sticky. The only reason I fended off the other business units who've demanded Microsoft Teams through the years is…

We migrated from Slack to Teams and while it does work, it’s also not very good (UI/UX wise). We also did try out Rocket.Chat and Mattermost and out of all of those Mattermost was the closest to Slack and the most familiar to us.

We've migrated a 1000+ product team to Mattermost 2 years ago.

Super happy with it. No bullshit upgrades that break your way of working. Utilitarian approach to everything, the basics just work. Still has some rough edges, but in a workhorse kind of way.

Endorse.

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Post by tra3 »

kimjune01 wrote: post #254
mh- wrote: post #50

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Unfortunately, I think we're equally likely to see shortsighted lock-in attempts like this [0] one from Slack. I tried to find a rebuttal to this article from Slack, but couldn't. I'm on a flight with slow wifi though. If someone from Slack wants to chime in that'd be swell, too. I've made the argument to CFOs multiple times over the years why we should continue to pay for Slack instead of just using Teams, but y'all…

If you are interested in scraping slack for personal use, I made a local-only slack scraper mcp: https://github.com/kimjune01/slunk-mcp

Thanks for building this, but also ridiculous that you had to do it. I miss irc even though slack is objectively better.

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Post by overfeed »

1dom wrote: post #205
aorloff wrote: post #69

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Nobody remembers the semantic web anymore

It was supposed to be Web 3.0, but then Web3 happened. In all seriousness though, I think HN has a larger-than-average amount of readers who've worked or studied around semantic web stuff.

> It was supposed to be Web 3.0, but then Web3 happened

There's a shocking overlap of GPU-slinging tech-bros hyping both. Crypto-bros turned LLM-experts out of necessity when mining crypo on their rigs became unprofitable.

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