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Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by gpm »

vel0city wrote: post #66
gpm wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A Microsoft employee tasked with public relations declaring it so at a Microsoft event in front of the press is Microsoft marketing it that way.

A Microsoft employee tasked with teaching devs how to write LiveTiles.

I.e. an official Microsoft representative, again, in front of the press, said it. It was repeated ad nauseam by the press and they made no attempt to correct it - in fact they went around getting the press to say similar things like "Once your device is upgraded to Windows 10, it will continue to be supported for the lifetime of the device at no cost". That's an official binding statement on the company if I ever did see one.

https://globalnews.ca/news/2135677/what-you-need-to-know-bef...

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by stego-tech »

eviks wrote: post #49
Xelbair wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

anecdotal evidence, but even my non-IT friends prefer to try out Linux than upgrade to w11. Meanwhile most corporate already swapped to w11. 53% is a huge failure on MS part, but that's what happens when you design OS to be a bad copy of your competition.

Interesting, how many of your friends stuck with Linux after trying out?

Adding another datapoint:

We're down to just three Windows boxes (four if you count the Xbox Series X) in our household, and are likely to winnow that down further following the resounding success of a Linux gaming box on old Sandy Bridge CPU + GTX 970 GPU + HDD. The eldest gamer in the household is so sick of Microsoft's nonsense that the only reason they're not fully on Linux already is because their production box is reliant upon Intel RST, which makes dual-booting a dangerous game.

Including the rest of my family, we have but one other Windows box amongst an extended family of ~dozen folks. Everyone else has moved to macOS or Linux.

Speaking from an IT perspective, I've also seen more organizations court macOS as a standard machine in lieu of Win11, especially with Microsoft's shift to InTune and away from Group Policy. Microsoft thought inertia would carry their customers into the cloud, but the costs involved posed enough of a speed bump that customers are reconsidering their Microsoft estate, provided they weren't already in Azure and/or didn't have M365 E5.

It's a bloodbath. Microsoft extending free support is tacit acknowledgement they s*t the bed and have no other gameplan ready to go right now.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by CodesInChaos »

Xelbair wrote: post #43
eviks wrote: post #14

> Microsoft's efforts do seem to be paying off (or, at least, some combination of Microsoft's efforts and Windows 10 PCs naturally aging out of the install base). While Windows 10 is still running on the majority of Windows PCs worldwide (about 53 percent, according to Statcounter's May 2025 data) 53% is huge mere months away from the end, and actually means that the efforts have resoundingly failed.

anecdotal evidence, but even my non-IT friends prefer to try out Linux than upgrade to w11. Meanwhile most corporate already swapped to w11. 53% is a huge failure on MS part, but that's what happens when you design OS to be a bad copy of your competition.

How is it working for your non IT friends? I made the switch when Windows 8.1 went out of support, rather than switch to 10. And while proton worked much better for gaming than expected, there were enough complications to make the switch difficult for a non technical person.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by hypercube33 »

throwcarsales wrote: post #56
eviks wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting, how many of your friends stuck with Linux after trying out?

Just one data point, but I have gone full Linux Mint on almost all my computers. Being a MS guy since 1991 at 7 years old. Remember being in aw at windows 95 at 11-12. Avoided apples my whole life. Seeing how much better my friends apple computers ran than my modern windows computers, I just went full Linux. Loving it. Telling my parents and friends to consider it instead of buying a new computer to replace the 'slow…

I have one laptop I got used to be able to daily drive Linux and for now am on Zorin Pro. A lot of people don't like paying for support, or Linux, and v17 definitely has some problems but so far I'm impressed how well it runs win32 stuff out of the box and looks great. Support is pretty awesome so far too.

Also yeah, I could do without paying just fine and work as basically a Windows engineer so I can Google stuff but I'm just over trying to deal with getting Linux working.

I do also have a steam deck and gaming is stellar on Proton but you still need Windows for DRM triple a games.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by leptons »

Xelbair wrote: post #43
eviks wrote: post #14

> Microsoft's efforts do seem to be paying off (or, at least, some combination of Microsoft's efforts and Windows 10 PCs naturally aging out of the install base). While Windows 10 is still running on the majority of Windows PCs worldwide (about 53 percent, according to Statcounter's May 2025 data) 53% is huge mere months away from the end, and actually means that the efforts have resoundingly failed.

anecdotal evidence, but even my non-IT friends prefer to try out Linux than upgrade to w11. Meanwhile most corporate already swapped to w11. 53% is a huge failure on MS part, but that's what happens when you design OS to be a bad copy of your competition.

The "bad copy of your competition" is probably in relation to the Windows 11 program launcher that resembles the centered design of the MacOS launcher.

But that can be easily removed using tools like Explorer Patcher and Open Shell.

https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher

https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

The thing that made me switch to Linux is Microsoft's pushing AI into everything. I do not want their AI constantly looking over my shoulder.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by doubled112 »

fluidcruft wrote: post #74
Xelbair wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

anecdotal evidence, but even my non-IT friends prefer to try out Linux than upgrade to w11. Meanwhile most corporate already swapped to w11. 53% is a huge failure on MS part, but that's what happens when you design OS to be a bad copy of your competition.

Don't forget Windows 10 was marketed by Microsoft as the final version of Windows. Plenty of people are probably fed up with Microsoft's games.

They did give everybody on Windows 10 the Windows 11 upgrade.

Is that similar? That would make it the last version you'll have to pay for. At least for most people.

Some conditions may apply:

* hardware compatibility permitting

* until we decide otherwise

* unless “the numbers” stop climbing

* until AI suggests so

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by goosedragons »

mystified5016 wrote: post #52
goosedragons wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't purchase Microsoft points. You can purchase extra support with 1000 Microsoft points that you can easily get for free in like a week clicking on some links on Bing.

That's paying for them with your time. You'd be better off spending that time earning money for yourself instead of Microsoft's ad network

It's literally like 5 min a day. Not even. They just cap how many points you can earn in a day.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by fibonacci112358 »

blibble wrote: post #71
1970-01-01 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Install Win 11 anyway. Bypass instructions are on YouTube, Reddit, Github, tech blogs, etc.

odds are they'll push out an update that requires a CPU feature not present on that CPU then GP parents' machine will just bluescreen at boot with illegal instruction

They won't, Windows isn't even compiled with AVX2 extensions on, even though every CPU in the last 10y+ supports it, for the fear of it running on some machine that doesn't have AVX2. The whole "CPU unsupported" thing is from the marketing side, trying to push purchase of new hardware, not from the actual devs.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by mslansn »

d0100 wrote: post #70
eviks wrote: post #14

> Microsoft's efforts do seem to be paying off (or, at least, some combination of Microsoft's efforts and Windows 10 PCs naturally aging out of the install base). While Windows 10 is still running on the majority of Windows PCs worldwide (about 53 percent, according to Statcounter's May 2025 data) 53% is huge mere months away from the end, and actually means that the efforts have resoundingly failed.

I'm still on a i7 4770k, waiting for non-bugged intel CPU's to launch, and upgrading to Win11 always fails

Intel cpu manufacturing issues were solved like a year ago.
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