There are two equals buttons?
The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set
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Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set
#12... Is that why it was so flexible in ResEdit?
And why NeXT's Cocoa had Interface Builder?
That was mostly the work (at least initially) of Jean-Marie Hullot
https://mjtsai.com/blog/2019/06/21/jean-marie-hullot-rip/
Which makes me wish for a site like to folklore.org for NeXT.
Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set
#13i thought this was actually a well established fact
The XKCD on this:
Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
And why NeXT's Cocoa had Interface Builder?
That was mostly the work (at least initially) of Jean-Marie Hullot https://mjtsai.com/blog/2019/06/21/jean-marie-hullot-rip/ Which makes me wish for a site like to folklore.org for NeXT.
... and had several Lisp versions before the one at NeXT.
Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set
#15There are two equals buttons?
The key layout on the calculator (DA or desk accessory) exactly matches the numeric keypad of the Lisa keyboard, but the big '=' key is labelled 'Enter' on the physical keypad. You could use the keypad to use the calculator, which I remember doing on a "Macintosh XL" (a Lisa running Mac OS) Having the big key be '=' was a nice usability feature since 'Enter' didn't make much sense in the calculator DA.
If you search for pictures of "Original Lisa Keyboard" you can see that the layout is the same. However, in the pictures I found the key that corresponds to the small '=' in the screenshot in the article is labelled '-' and there appear to be some other differences. I don't remember these differences or any rationale for them.
Update: They screenshot in the article exactly matches the Macintosh Plus keyboard -- which is a keyboard I actually owned. Although I used Mac XL before getting my Plus, it's probably this keyboard that I'm remembering:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_keyboards#Macintosh_Plus...
Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set
#16It annoyed me to no end that the calculator button placement like "=" didn't line up with the order on their own keyboard. But then knowing it was set in stone before Apple made a full keyboard for the Mac made it make sense. Remember P-Cal? Its still around
See my comment under the "There are two equals buttons?" parent.
Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
That was mostly the work (at least initially) of Jean-Marie Hullot https://mjtsai.com/blog/2019/06/21/jean-marie-hullot-rip/ Which makes me wish for a site like to folklore.org for NeXT.
... and had several Lisp versions before the one at NeXT.
Yeah, I really wish that someone would recreate the Lisp versions for a currently available version of Lisp.
I'm about to break down and begin learning Swift and trying to use SwiftUI --- we'll have to see how it goes.
Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
... and had several Lisp versions before the one at NeXT.
Yeah, I really wish that someone would recreate the Lisp versions for a currently available version of Lisp. I'm about to break down and begin learning Swift and trying to use SwiftUI --- we'll have to see how it goes.
The Lisp versions had the advantage that they were all written for the same GUI - Macintosh. I copied ideas from the LeLisp paper for my Franz Lisp & GEM environment back then.
There are too many holes in current GUI support.
The Lisp that traditionally had the best bindings on the Macintosh, CCL, doesn't run natively on current models.
McCLIM needs backends for Windows and OSX to be considered portable.
Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set
#19There are two equals buttons?
The key layout on the calculator (DA or desk accessory) exactly matches the numeric keypad of the Lisa keyboard, but the big '=' key is labelled 'Enter' on the physical keypad. You could use the keypad to use the calculator, which I remember doing on a "Macintosh XL" (a Lisa running Mac OS) Having the big key be '=' was a nice usability feature since 'Enter' didn't make much sense in the calculator DA. If you search…
It’s odd because the original Macintosh had a smaller keyboard without a numpad, however one was offered separately. It’s interesting because this “original” keypad has different placement or operator keys than the Plus keyboard.
Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
It may be a well established fact among people who know the Pantone number and official name of the beige Macs. A lot of people are getting exposed to these stories for the first time. New developers and tech enthusiasts are born every day, you know!
i guess that makes sense we need an environment where new people can get these stories faster i mean a place where stories are repeated and a different place where new stories are put up that makes things interesting as well i guess
If I've seen it already and don't want to discuss it more, I just don't click or comment on it.
Sometimes I want to click something I've already read and see what other interesting comments are posted.