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Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Some cultures long avoided being photographed, because they believed the camera would steal their soul. It took the rest of us much longer to realize they were right.

> the camera would steal their soul. wasn't the camera doing the stealing, but the holder of the photo (facebook in this case)! And it wasn't the soul being stolen, but money!

No, I'm pretty sure they're stealing souls. That or kidneys.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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This is why I requested family not to post pictures of my children on Facebook. They will get to decide what to do with their likenesses when they're older. It seemed cruel to let Facebook train a model on them from the time they were babies until they first start using social media in earnest.

Some cultures long avoided being photographed, because they believed the camera would steal their soul. It took the rest of us much longer to realize they were right.

I like this poetic way of putting it, though I don't agree with the message.

In Holland we have a saying, what do you bring it your house is burning down? And most people said my photos. This was before the digital age and cloud obviously. We take photos because we care. Stuffing them into everyone else's face has also been a thing at birthday parties but outside that not so much.

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Recent iOS versions have granular controls over library access to prevent this.

The way you prevent this is by deleting your facebook account and uninstalling the app.

Most people don't know that hidden Facebook services even come preinstalled on most Android phones and persist even when the main app is deleted :(

And on Android they're not even the worst privacy player which is Google of course

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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I am building one with a chronological feed and no public profiles. You need to already know someone to find them here. Check out the waitlist! https://waitlist-tx.pages.dev/ Edit: Here are some rough layout designs https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uLwnXDdUsC9hMZBa1ysR... It's intentionally simple

What is the difference between this and a group chat? Most people have If the posts are more long form, what is the difference between this and a blog where the "secret code" is the URL? Or even a finsta account currated the way you want. I don't say these as a "it's not gonna work" as in consumer its about the experience, I genuinely wonder why the experience will be better

These are very valid questions , thanks for asking them.

> Group chat Group chats work when everyone in one know each other. I have N different circles which don't overlap so group doesn't chat makes sense. Messages in group chat are more "in the face" - everyone has to. I just wanted a place where I can dump my thoughts without feeling like seeking immediate attention.

> Blog PostX is indeed something like a private blogging space. It's something I wanted for myself.

Honestly I am not fully sure how it's going to be used by people but I have built something me and my friends like and use.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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In some countries (notably Poland) Facebook is so burned into people's brains that you can't avoid this, and if you try, people and institutions will consider you a tinfoil hat weirdo and put pressure on you. Basically every kindergarten, primary school and high school will want to post pictures.

I don't care if they label me a weirdo. I agree with OP. Please refrain from posting any pictures of my children. Simple as that.

i deleted my facebook account over 15 years ago, and people at the time thought i was weird for doing so. I would feel vindicated today, except i dont, because neither my friends nor coworkers have followed, nor want to despite all evidence to the contrary!

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This is truly egregious. Facebook and Instagram are installed by default on many android phones and cannot be fully uninstalled. And even if asked for consent, many people may choose the harmful option by mistake or due to lack of awareness. It's alarming that these companies cannot be held to even the bare minimum standards of ethics. As an aside, there was a discussion a few days back where someone argued that bein…

This is why I just spent weeks tracking down a modern device that I could vendor unlock and install LineageOS on. It's no longer possible on recent OnePlus devices and many people selling other brands on Swappa and Amazon claim their devices are vendor unlockable when they're actually just carrier unlockable. I don't want any vendor's crapware running on my device. I hate that I "have to" use Google Play to function…

That's what I plan to do too. My current device is locked down pretty aggressively. But the problem here is, what percentage of the population has the skill and patience to do it? These companies need to hold only a simple majority of the population hostage. The holdouts like you or me can be eventually peer pressured into accepting the same abuse.

For example, let's say that you avoid a certain abusive messaging platform. But what if your bank or some other essential institution insist on using it to provide their service? We can complain all they want. But they will probably just neglect you until you concede in despair.

To fight this, you need affordable and ethical alternatives for the device, platform and applications. You also would need either regulation or widespread public awareness. Honestly, the current situation is hopeless on that front.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Granted, many people could guess what “train” means, but it’s not obvious if on average people will be more likely to read and understand that than the words “analyze” and “create ideas” they choose to use instead.

In context, those sound like things they’re going to do for you . People are not going to understand this as “we’re going to use your stuff for our own purposes unrelated to the services you get.” Here’s the thing. Even if we grant your idea that maybe this is more understandable, why would that be reasonable? Facebook employs a lot of very smart people and has enormous resources. I’m confident they could come up wit…

According to the company spokesperson quoted by TechCrunch, they aren’t using the photos to train models, which is probably why they didn’t put that in the dialog.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Show 3 walls side by side: updates by friends, interactions by direct connections on shares by friends of friends, and public stories by those nearby (geographically). The latter could also turn into a way for local businesses to promote themselves. Keep the 3 in separate lanes in order to let the user decide how much they want to doom scroll.

Thanks for the thoughts. But we are not interested turning into Facebook. You will only see posts of your friends and nothing more. I was spending 8+ hours a day doom scrolling which led to this idea. I just want to see what my friends want me to see and that's it.

Sure thing. Oh - maybe let people follow non-friends that they want to see public updates from, and make everyone follow you, so their walls won't be so empty on Day 1 ;).

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These days I treat Facebook as a marketplace for offloading lightly used items. Social media is dead to me.

Facebook marketplace has surprisingly large number of listings and in my country not even dedicated marketplaces can come close

Facebook marketplace killed or vastly reduced the size of other marketplace platforms in many countries. Strangely it also seems like the amount of fraud rose as people moved to Facebook Marketplace. I guess it was easier for scammers to work on Facebook, needing only one platform to commit fraud in multiple countries, rather than attempting to work on hundreds of local sites.
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