Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order
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Re: Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order
#2Federal court orders aren't federal it seems.
Re: Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order
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>On his first day in office this year, he signed an executive order declaring that babies born in the U.S. may not be citizens if their parents were not here legally or if the parents were here legally but on a temporary basis like a work visa.
Does this mean for workers in the US on the H1B visa, their children who are born in the US will no longer automatically be US citizens?
Re: Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order
#4Federal court orders aren't federal it seems.
They're federal district courts.
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#6Quote > On his first day in office this year, he signed an executive order declaring that babies born in the U.S. may not be citizens if their parents were not here legally or if the parents were here legally but on a temporary basis like a work visa. Does this mean for workers in the US on the H1B visa, their children who are born in the US will no longer automatically be US citizens?
It's not a great sign that the supreme Court didn't uphold the injunctions, but I still have some hope that even this almost worthless supreme Court would overrule such a blatantly unconstitutional executive order.
Re: Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order
#7Quote > On his first day in office this year, he signed an executive order declaring that babies born in the U.S. may not be citizens if their parents were not here legally or if the parents were here legally but on a temporary basis like a work visa. Does this mean for workers in the US on the H1B visa, their children who are born in the US will no longer automatically be US citizens?
That’s the gist, yes, at least initially. It never stops at a given category of person, though, and you can assume next steps would be to set arbitrary milestones and dates around who is and is not a citizen based on birthright. Picture the glut of immigrants in the 1800 and 1900s who never got proper citizenship, or only had permanent residency. You can bet that the next step would be to say if you can’t point to a US Citizen direct ancestor after a given year, you’re no longer a citizen yourself.
That’s why revocation through Executive Order alone is so dangerous: its intent isn’t merely to get all undesirables today, but all undesirables ever, no matter what the definition of “undesirable” is.
Re: Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order
#8Quote > On his first day in office this year, he signed an executive order declaring that babies born in the U.S. may not be citizens if their parents were not here legally or if the parents were here legally but on a temporary basis like a work visa. Does this mean for workers in the US on the H1B visa, their children who are born in the US will no longer automatically be US citizens?
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Re: Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order
#9Quote > On his first day in office this year, he signed an executive order declaring that babies born in the U.S. may not be citizens if their parents were not here legally or if the parents were here legally but on a temporary basis like a work visa. Does this mean for workers in the US on the H1B visa, their children who are born in the US will no longer automatically be US citizens?
That’s the gist, yes, at least initially. It never stops at a given category of person, though, and you can assume next steps would be to set arbitrary milestones and dates around who is and is not a citizen based on birthright. Picture the glut of immigrants in the 1800 and 1900s who never got proper citizenship, or only had permanent residency. You can bet that the next step would be to say if you can’t point to a…
Some of us can trace ancestry to service in the revolutionary war.
Re: Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions in birthright citizenship order
#10Quote > On his first day in office this year, he signed an executive order declaring that babies born in the U.S. may not be citizens if their parents were not here legally or if the parents were here legally but on a temporary basis like a work visa. Does this mean for workers in the US on the H1B visa, their children who are born in the US will no longer automatically be US citizens?
As of right now it means they can still be kidnapped and deported while we figure out what that means.