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The Effect of Noise on Sleep

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Re: The Effect of Noise on Sleep

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I find this hard to believe this is universally true. I sleep much worse without noise. I use a fan or a speaker to add noise to the room. If I don't, I wake up constantly.

White noise and wave sounds != A motorcycle with the loudest exhaust imaginable blasting by your house going 100mph at 3am

Re: The Effect of Noise on Sleep

#22
A couple things:

1) I’d like to see additional measures beyond dB. A 50dB consistent white noise does not bother me (and may even enhance my sleep) but an intermittent off/on sound of the same magnitude has a very different effect

2) what is the accuracy of the consumer metrics compared to medical benchmarks? In other words, how reliable are the sleep measures of consumer devices? Anecdotally, I’ve noticed my watch thinks I’m sleeping sometimes when I watch a movie, and I’ve heard MDs say the metrics aren’t accurate enough to make strong conclusions.

Re: The Effect of Noise on Sleep

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post #22

A couple things: 1) I’d like to see additional measures beyond dB. A 50dB consistent white noise does not bother me (and may even enhance my sleep) but an intermittent off/on sound of the same magnitude has a very different effect 2) what is the accuracy of the consumer metrics compared to medical benchmarks? In other words, how reliable are the sleep measures of consumer devices? Anecdotally, I’ve noticed my watch t…

Yes i always sleep with a nature sound generator. It's comforting.

Re: The Effect of Noise on Sleep

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Would love to know what kind of noise and sound level was used for this test. Was it a continuous monotonous noise (such as white/pink/brown noise) at a fixed volume? Or was it some random noise that would "pop-up" randomly? Does anyone know? I would imagine that a noise that would randomly "pop-up" would be worse. But would be curious if that's not the case.

+1 also thought about this.

Something like the variability of noise (eg, maybe figure out the 25th percentile dbs across the night, and then count the spikes above that? or maybe count the number of times the slope goes above a certain value indicating sharp rises in volume that would disturb someone?)

I also would love to simply see the data based on the average of "N loudest moment(s)" during the sleep. eg: treat the dbs score for that night as the average of the N loudest moments over the night, and plot a series of graphs that show various values of N. (or make it 3d, but i've found many folks are not capable of reading those kinds of graphs)

Re: The Effect of Noise on Sleep

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post #5

So just use some good quality earplugs?

thoughts on the safety of that wrt firealarms / home security?

Also similarly for parents? (kids/baby crying)

I've mostly been YOLOing it so far, but worry that once I'm not single (no kids) it won't be acceptable.

Re: The Effect of Noise on Sleep

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A lot of folks are talking about the “consistency” of a sound (constant white noise vs random sounds) and its volume, but I feel like the nature of the sound matters a lot more.

I’ll respond much differently to my bedroom door opening or a voice speaking than I do a bus outside.

It reminds me of the anecdote where human researchers rang bells near bears (human sounds) and the bears didn’t care, but if they broke a large bundle of branches (bear sounds), the bears went berserk.

I feel like our subconscious is a lot more involved here than we give it credit for.

Re: The Effect of Noise on Sleep

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Wonder if white noise counts as noise from this perspective. Or if it’s mainly unexpected noises that make sleep quality worse.

In many animals, hearing gets less sensitive in general when they sleep. I think it's common for people to be surprised by that, but it works that way to maximize sleep function.

Dog's are thought to be an exception, because part of their domestication involved selection for the offspring that was more alert (watch dogs).

The brain is thought to be hyper sensitive to a certain subset of sounds while sleeping, such as babies crying.

White noise is thought to work by drowning out the sounds we are most sensitive to.

Re: The Effect of Noise on Sleep

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Some days I joke that there should be a set of Nobel prizes for making machines quieter. Categories could include: air-conditioning units and mini-fridges, construction and landscaping equipment, old university buildings, pump-housings, etc. The quality of life of many would be improved if we had quieter machines. It boggles my mind that a) in many hotel rooms one can hear a good deal of machine noise and neighbors' televisions, and b) that some sort of noise score (as calculated from DB meter measurements) isn't more widely available for things like apartment rentals, conference room bookings, etc.
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