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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

#81
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Sometimes I feel like the guy in the mongodb is webscale video and just want to go get a farm out in the country and shovel pig shit all day.

I imagine that shoveling pig shit all day gets old very quickly. It's very easy to try working at a farm and seeing if you like it.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

#82
I'm nearly done after seeing the nonstop indianization of my topics on google.

Niches from motorcycles to tech to music have become a punjab yellowpages and no one is even talking about it.

Google the most popular korean boyband in the world "BTS"

6/7 of my results are indian domains. What's the point of even trying anymore when ESL slop like that gets a massive SERP advantage for years now and is only getting worse?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

#83
Ive been around since 2004. I've seen this cycle a few times now in the industry.

An accountant, proper CPA, needs like 5-10 hours of training per year to keep on top of their industry.

IT? Are we on mainframes? no we moved to individual pcs? I mean we moved to the mainframe in the cloud? No we moved to individual ai on GPUs? No we moved to the ai in the cloud?

IT is constantly changing and 10 hours per day of training isnt enough and if you're caught on Y framework when the industry moved on from that framework. Then you're SOL. Not many people still got those fortran jobs.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

#84
For whatever reason, my career has been driven by curiosity, first computers and Fortran II, then real-time medical data analysis, then compilers, then collection of batch financial data from dozens of sources, then low-latency financial trading backed by genetic programming, then application security.

I've luckily managed to avoid too many brain-dead execs, but there have been spells that the gig is boring.

Looking back on it, there have been very few spells in which I have not been programming, if not for a gig, but on my own to explore my curiosity.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

#85

I'm still trying to get my foot in the door. Ever since I started building 'raw' pages for people who had either "business ideas" or ran a 100 person sales team, no one has known or respected the difficulty of what goes into what we build or how it is actually a better solution than whatever they were asking for originally. Maybe once I actually break into the industry i will finally find a manager who understands wh…

I feel that right in my soul. The other side of the coin is they are currently destroying the talent pipeline by keeping smart motivated people out of roles where they could learn fast and grow. The myopic strategy(or lack thereof) is astonishing to me.

You are delusional. I remember when I was starting (over 10 years ago), I worked with a guy who had a PhD in physics. We were doing WordPress stuff and I was getting paid higher than him (to add insult to injury I was based in a cheap third-world country and he was UK based). Since I've interacted with him a bit, I got to discover that he was very smart, mathematically inclined and did actually write correct English.

There is still no demand for physics. There is a world where we are heading for another bull market in tech but there is a also a world where this slump remains here forever. My guess is on the latter. The talent in the global south has considerably caught up in the last 15-20 years in terms of skills, language and numbers.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

#87
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Oh yes. It's dog eat dog but among very lazy privileged dogs. Don't confuse business with a humane enterprise. It operates according to a vague informal internal calculus, has little loyalty to staff or communities and will happily eat skilled, conscientious contributors. The utopian stuff about being intelligent and progressive is hyperbole; a side effect of a privileged class of the labor sector for 50 years for th…

Wtf are you talking about “priveleged”?

Many people worked day and night to become a well paid engineer. And some rich founders of companies still do, coming from nothing.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

#88
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Hi! I've been doing this since 1994 (I started in the industry instead of going to college). I feel this way approximately once every 7-8 years. What I think I've learned is that I make stupid decisions reacting to those feelings.

> I make stupid decisions reacting to those feelings.

Yea it seems like the right thing to do is to step away and take a sabbatical to cool down, and then remember that we like money, and that it's just part of the game to get paid.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

#89
post #45

Sometimes I feel like the guy in the mongodb is webscale video and just want to go get a farm out in the country and shovel pig shit all day.

One of the jobs I’m most thankful of having was my very first one. On a farm. Dealing with pigs.

You can have that job. I’ll put up with 8 bosses, tps reports and air conditioning.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else just done with the industry?

#90
The core issue here isn't just market conditions or bad hiring practices. It's that tech _workers_ have spent decades thinking they were somehow different from other _workers_, that they were 'partners' with capital rather than the labor behind it.

You're experiencing what people in every other industry have dealt with for generations: being treated as a disposable cost center when it's convenient for ownership. The solution isn't individual resilience or '''grinding harder''', it's collective action.

Tech workers need to organize. We need unions. We need to stop pretending that stock options and ping pong tables make us anything other than workers whose interests are fundamentally opposed to those who fire us on a whim to boost quarterly numbers.

The people who laid you off, who are outsourcing jobs, who are trying to replace workers with AI — they are not on your side! They never were! This is class warfare, and we tech workers have been deluding ourselves supporting the wrong side.

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